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Posted by willyee on March 31, 2006, at 18:35:17
I know tyler is doing well,and errr u suck man.Just kidding of course,.Anyway i had success with parnate on my first year but there were differecnes,life changes,i was using alpha stim,i was taking fish oil,etc.
NOW HOWEVER,im taking parnate like m&ms and they are sending me into a deep deep depression,yet i feel the STRONG need to take them out of addictive qulaites.
Thepruticaly the med is doing nothing for me,had i a single option better id switch,but honestly knowing all the meds i know the only other option seems to be a med vaction.
Taking parnate in the morning gives me a quick 30 min speed like effect then the DROP and im weak and tired as u can imagine,shaving is a task.
Adding caffiene worsens it,adding a benzo aggravtes me to all hell.
The drug is worsening my ocd like a tornado,my anxiety sky rocketing.
Taking parnate alone will send me into rage spells,so i basicaly live off augmenting it and every combo that i find that does work,which i usualy mention here,poops out after a week,my family says u were up and doing stuff all week now what again?yess again!
I see my new doc on monday,my old one moved but assured me who she is referring me to comes from a top notch school,is older and very knowledagble she said the person i wanted was not strong enough for me,lol that comment touched me because she took time to make sure that she is sending me to someone she knows might have the knowledagle and experiance to take me on since im not ur average patient any longer.
Anyway blah blah,my last idea is i read somewhere about certain meds not be taken to early in the am due to something about blood levels.So what i plan to do is take my anxiety meds in the morning and hold out on parnate to late aftrnoon.i have too the morning parnate dose is killing me.
ED do u know anything about a med might being more effective taken later in the day opposed to early am?Also any recomedations or ideas i should speak to this new doc about,im a semi-maniac mood cylcing mess now but no one seems to take notice but me,i dont mean to be concieted but my ocd keeps me working out,and i think since people see me in somewhat gopod shape on the outside its hard for them to take me serious about how bad and messed up i am now on the inside,im loosing my way and im on the frontline with my emotional energy just about on "save me now"
Posted by TylerJ on March 31, 2006, at 20:21:23
In reply to My parnate exper, posted by willyee on March 31, 2006, at 18:35:17
> I know tyler is doing well,and errr u suck man.Just kidding of course,.Anyway i had success with parnate on my first year but there were differecnes,life changes,i was using alpha stim,i was taking fish oil,etc.
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> NOW HOWEVER,im taking parnate like m&ms and they are sending me into a deep deep depression,yet i feel the STRONG need to take them out of addictive qulaites.
>
> Thepruticaly the med is doing nothing for me,had i a single option better id switch,but honestly knowing all the meds i know the only other option seems to be a med vaction.
>
> Taking parnate in the morning gives me a quick 30 min speed like effect then the DROP and im weak and tired as u can imagine,shaving is a task.
>
> Adding caffiene worsens it,adding a benzo aggravtes me to all hell.
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> The drug is worsening my ocd like a tornado,my anxiety sky rocketing.
>
> Taking parnate alone will send me into rage spells,so i basicaly live off augmenting it and every combo that i find that does work,which i usualy mention here,poops out after a week,my family says u were up and doing stuff all week now what again?yess again!
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> I see my new doc on monday,my old one moved but assured me who she is referring me to comes from a top notch school,is older and very knowledagble she said the person i wanted was not strong enough for me,lol that comment touched me because she took time to make sure that she is sending me to someone she knows might have the knowledagle and experiance to take me on since im not ur average patient any longer.
>
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> Anyway blah blah,my last idea is i read somewhere about certain meds not be taken to early in the am due to something about blood levels.So what i plan to do is take my anxiety meds in the morning and hold out on parnate to late aftrnoon.i have too the morning parnate dose is killing me.
>
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> ED do u know anything about a med might being more effective taken later in the day opposed to early am?
>
> Also any recomedations or ideas i should speak to this new doc about,im a semi-maniac mood cylcing mess now but no one seems to take notice but me,i dont mean to be concieted but my ocd keeps me working out,and i think since people see me in somewhat gopod shape on the outside its hard for them to take me serious about how bad and messed up i am now on the inside,im loosing my way and im on the frontline with my emotional energy just about on "save me now"
Welcome back Willyee. Sorry you're not doing well. Seeing the new doc is the best thing you could do. And I know you know more about meds/drugs than I do, but my gut feeling is that you need to quit taking the Parnate...I don't know, but somehow your body is either immuned to it or rejecting it at least it sounds that way to me. Have you ever given Nardil a good shot? And of course your interested in the patch-maybe this will be the ticket for you. Also, your new doc may have ideas that are completely new to you. Anyway, I'm sorry you're hurting and hope you get some relief SOON!Tyler
Posted by Phillipa on March 31, 2006, at 21:37:35
In reply to Re: My parnate exper » willyee, posted by TylerJ on March 31, 2006, at 20:21:23
Err I'm sorry to be a party pooper here but I thought when nothing else worked parnate or nardil was all that was left? Love Phillipa
Posted by willyee on March 31, 2006, at 22:14:24
In reply to Re: My parnate exper » willyee, posted by TylerJ on March 31, 2006, at 20:21:23
No youre right on the money,my body needs a long vaction from it,its build up a immune wall aganist it,but like i said the scary thing is i dont see viable options.Nardil drove me into a deep depression.Anything that ever helped was in addition to parnate,which is why im staying on it thinking im gonna find this magic combo but im not.
I will have to come to the reality its time to get off,the patch i would imagine would be my only option.But i will listen to what this new doc says and well see.
Thanks for the post,its nice to see even though ur feeling well ur hanging around to offer support where as u could have easly bounced on outta here,its appreciated im sure!!!
Posted by JaclinHyde on April 1, 2006, at 2:12:52
In reply to Re: My parnate exper, posted by willyee on March 31, 2006, at 22:14:24
How long have you been on the Parnate? What dose do you take? Just curious.....
JH
Posted by TylerJ on April 1, 2006, at 7:15:37
In reply to Re: My parnate exper, posted by willyee on March 31, 2006, at 22:14:24
> Thanks for the post,its nice to see even though ur feeling well ur hanging around to offer support where as u could have easly bounced on outta here,its appreciated im sure!!!
Hell no, I'm not going to just quit coming around because I'm doing well. I care about you and all (well, most) :) of the people here. You and many others were/are there for me...it works both ways. And besides that, I could end up back in "the dungeon" next week. With this F'in illness you never know!Hold on man. One thing I know about you is that you are strong, and a fighter...keep fighting Willyee!
Posted by TylerJ on April 1, 2006, at 7:51:32
In reply to Re: My parnate exper, posted by Phillipa on March 31, 2006, at 21:37:35
> Err I'm sorry to be a party pooper here but I thought when nothing else worked parnate or nardil was all that was left? Love Phillipa
Oh no,no,... Don't forget about the MAOI patch (Emsam). Just accept it Phillipa, MAOI's RULE!! :}
Tyler
Posted by tygereyes on April 2, 2006, at 4:55:37
In reply to Re: My parnate exper » Phillipa, posted by TylerJ on April 1, 2006, at 7:51:32
In an above thread, I discussed the addictive properties of Parnate.
In fact, I have been abusing it recently. I'm technically off meds and not seeing a psychiatrist, but every few days I pop a few Parnate for the amphetamine kick it gives me.
The problem with Parnate was, for me, that I have a lot of mood lability and cycling. So a medication with such a short-half life was not a good choice for me, especially because if I took it later than 2:00 p.m. I'd be awake all night. So during the day I felt speed-freak great and then at night I'd crash into a deep depression.
You might have better luck with Emsam - since it's a patch, it will be released slowly into your system over a period of 24 hours, allowing for more stable dosing.
Posted by willyee on April 2, 2006, at 11:21:01
In reply to Re: My parnate exper, posted by tygereyes on April 2, 2006, at 4:55:37
I hear yeah,the short life for me is sooo evident that it makes it feel less than theruptuic.
Its like i know its gone,and time for more,not simply fading away,its like a sharp just gone.But i am cutting it off a lot latly with augmentation.
As for you,wow if ur at the point of only one why not finihs the job and find a replacment for when u feel u wanna take the one,although if ur able to stay there that is def a accomplishment in its own right!
Luckly knock on wood,since i have used ambien i have not had a SINGLE all nighter,its unbelievable i simply go to bed when im ready knowing i will fall asleep.
If only every drug could just simply do as it states the world would be great.I usualy take half an ambien seems less for me is better right now.
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