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Posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 10:23:41
This morning I was thinking of all the meds I've taken during my 25 years with this crappy disease. I'm sure I've forgotten a few, but here goes....
Xanax, Klonopin, Serax, Buspar, Ativan, Lithium, Cytomel, Lamictal, Thyroid 4, Nuerontin, Geodon, Strattera, ambien, Lunesta, Benadryl, Anafrinil, Wellbutrin, Depakote, Trazodone, Effexor, Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Luvox, celexa, Lexapro, Remeron, Serzone, Cymbalta, Pamelor, Imipramine, Marplan, Nardil, Parnate, Mirapex, Lyrica, Elavil, and Loxapine. Whew!!!
Of these 38 drugs only 8 of them actually worked for a period of time: Ativan, Lamictal, Remeron, Paxil, Prozac, Remeron, Mirapex, and of course my beloved Parnate! Unfortunately, only %20 of these drugs worked for me. My Pdoc says I'm *Treatment Resistant* Hell, aren't we all!!
Please add your list and comments if you want to.
Tyler
Posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 11:39:09
In reply to 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 10:23:41
I beleive most of us are treatment resistant, not only from this board, but many people i know personally! i have a friend with ocd, who after 20 years has found "no" relief at all, even with 120 mgs. of prozac, though lamictal brought him put of a deep depression when his mom passed away.i have taken tofranil, tranxene, klonopin, valium, luvox, celexa, serzone, prozac, librium, campral and st. john's wort, prozac was the only effective AD, klonopin was also, and still is effective. luvox was worthless as was celexa.
tofranil helped years ago in my teens. prozac is just keeping me going at the moment, but i beleive it has pooped out after 4 years. i really at this point don't know what to do, i can't tolrate high doses of ssri's, nor would i prefer to be on high doses. i may give tofranil another shot, but i am not optimistic...john [maybe i need a better placebo based attitude]
Posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 13:08:54
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 11:39:09
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> I beleive most of us are treatment resistant, not only from this board, but many people i know personally! i have a friend with ocd, who after 20 years has found "no" relief at all, even with 120 mgs. of prozac, though lamictal brought him put of a deep depression when his mom passed away.
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> i have taken tofranil, tranxene, klonopin, valium, luvox, celexa, serzone, prozac, librium, campral and st. john's wort, prozac was the only effective AD, klonopin was also, and still is effective. luvox was worthless as was celexa.
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> tofranil helped years ago in my teens. prozac is just keeping me going at the moment, but i beleive it has pooped out after 4 years. i really at this point don't know what to do, i can't tolrate high doses of ssri's, nor would i prefer to be on high doses. i may give tofranil another shot, but i am not optimistic...john [maybe i need a better placebo based attitude]
I would recommend trying an MAOI like Parnate or Nardil. The side effects and diet restrictions have been blown way out of preportion. The Diet is not hard at all. Parnate is my favorite and is currently relieving all my symptoms. On parnate for one month, 0 depression, 0 anxiety, 0 social phobia, 0 OCD...best I've felt in 25 yrs. So much better than TCA's, ssri's, snri's, for me and A LOT of people. It just might be the answer for you. Good Luck!Tyler
Posted by ed_uk on March 9, 2006, at 13:38:43
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 11:39:09
John,
Perhaps you could try clomipramine (Anafranil)? It's a TCA like imipramine (Tofranil) but it's more effective for OCD.
Ed
Posted by JaclinHyde on March 9, 2006, at 14:28:34
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 11:39:09
It is easier to say what I haven't tried. Remeron.
I have tried all the SSRI's, SNRI's, Wellbutrin, all the tricyclics and all the MAOI's including moclobomide which I got from Canada as a trial (waste of time.)
OK what do I win Don Pardo? ;-)
JH
Posted by James K on March 9, 2006, at 15:02:32
In reply to 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 10:23:41
In 13 years since first treatment - Prozac, Celexa, Remeron, Effexor, Serzone, Zoloft, Paxil, Welbutrin, Seroquel, Risperdone, Lamictal, Zyprexa, Klonopin, ambien, lunesta, clonodine,
I'm sure I'm missing a couple of ssri's, and atypical ap's.
I think the Serzone, remeron, zyprexa combo was the unhappiest time of my life, and the Welbutrin, Paxil, klonopin combo was the wildest ride of my life.
Whatever is the hot new med, I'm sure they will start me on it monday. Abilify, or Geodon or something.
If it was up to me, either low dose prozac or welbutrin, with klonopin and a sleep aid is all I need. the rest is up to me.
James K
Posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:44:03
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 13:08:54
thanks tyler, my pdoc wanted to start me on parnate a year ago, but i was so fearful of the food restrictions, i said no without giving it thought. i'm so glad you are doing well on it, 0 depression and 0 ocd sounds like heaven to me...john
Posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:47:50
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by ed_uk on March 9, 2006, at 13:38:43
Hi Ed, how have you been?
i was reading up on anafranil monday, it was something i was considering, i heard it is a classic ocd drug, but i was wondering about the fatigue issue, i am a lifter and runner, both help my depression, would that be of consequence.i am going to talk to my pdoc about either parnate, or anafranil, thank you Ed...john
Posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 17:05:46
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 13:08:54
http://www.remedyfind.com/review_long.asp?id=12554&review_id=13296 sorry about the NM tyler, i found this thread, seems you are not alone with the great effect from parnate, this guy rated it 10 all around, very cool...john
Posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 17:12:59
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 17:05:46
> http://www.remedyfind.com/review_long.asp?id=12554&review_id=13296 sorry about the NM tyler, i found this thread, seems you are not alone with the great effect from parnate, this guy rated it 10 all around, very cool...john
Thanks John, I'll check it out. :)Tyler
Posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 17:31:42
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:44:03
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> thanks tyler, my pdoc wanted to start me on parnate a year ago, but i was so fearful of the food restrictions, i said no without giving it thought. i'm so glad you are doing well on it, 0 depression and 0 ocd sounds like heaven to me...john
If you do start Parnate I will give you an updated list of the foods and drugs to avoid..it's really not that bad. Some of the old lists are way outdated, and simply not accurate. You can eat american cheese, i.e. cheeseburgers, you just can't have cheese and meats that are aged. Some people say pizza is alright if it only has mozzarella cheese on it because mozzarella is not aged..I haven't tried it yet.
Can't use decongestants, But antihistamines are okay. Demerol is definitely not to be taken with maoi's. Cream cheese, and cottage cheese is okay, Caffiene is okay in moderation. I'll give you a complete list when you need it. I hope you do try Parnate..and I hope it works as well for you as it does for me. The biggest draw back for me is insomnia, but for me, Trazodone and Benadryl help me sleep like a baby. Best wishes.Tyler
Posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 17:39:19
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 17:31:42
thank you, that is so nice of you, i am visiting my pdoc wednesday, i will definetly let you know if i do try parnate Tyler, thanks for your encouragement...john
Posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 17:41:41
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » ed_uk, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:47:50
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> Hi Ed, how have you been?
> i was reading up on anafranil monday, it was something i was considering, i heard it is a classic ocd drug, but i was wondering about the fatigue issue, i am a lifter and runner, both help my depression, would that be of consequence.
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> i am going to talk to my pdoc about either parnate, or anafranil, thank you Ed...john
------------------------No offense to Ed, He knows his stuff and I respect his advice and opinions. However, FOR ME Anafranil didn't touch my OCD, I tried it twice out of desperation once for 8 mos. the other for 6 mos. The only thing it did for me was give me a heck of a lot of side effects, including very dry mouth, weight gain, sedation,and difficulty having an orgasm. REMEMBER, just because it didn't help me doesn't mean it will not help you. Good luck.
Tyler
Posted by ed_uk on March 9, 2006, at 17:43:09
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » ed_uk, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:47:50
Hi J
> i was wondering about the fatigue issue, i am a lifter and runner, both help my depression, would that be of consequence
Did imipramine (Tofranil) interfere with your ability to exercise?
Ed
Posted by jessers11581 on March 9, 2006, at 17:50:40
In reply to 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 10:23:41
I've been on meds since 1997--started when I was seventeen. From first to last, these are the meds I've taken: Paxil, Xanax, Ambien, Trazodone, Zoloft, Celexa, Wellbutrin, Luvox, Lexapro, and Cymbalta.
Paxil: made me extremely sleepy and I gained weight, but I think it probably saved my life at the time; took it for 2 years
Trazodone: great for sleep, but didn't need it after being on Paxil for awhile
Celexa: worked great for about 3 years
Wellbutrin: made me absolutely insane; terrible experience
Zoloft/Luvox: didn't take for very long; don't remember much about them
Lexapro: made me nauseous and spacy (or at least I thought so at the time)
Cymbalta: seems to be okay so far...although I've noticed increased lethargy since increasing to 60 mg. I don't feel that I have as much brain fog with it as some of the SSRI's. I can't tell whether it's good for obsessive-compulsiveness or not...I still have my OCD moments.
Posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 19:12:58
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by ed_uk on March 9, 2006, at 17:43:09
Hi Ed, no, as a matter of fact it didn't, i actually started my running program while on tofranil. are they basically the same in that respect...john
Posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2006, at 23:02:08
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 16:44:03
John you too? An MAOI? Fondly, Phillipa ps I thought the prozac was working pretty good for you
Posted by john berk on March 10, 2006, at 8:11:44
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2006, at 23:02:08
Hi Phillipa, how are you?
i haven't made a concrete descison yet, but i need all the great help i can get here on babble, going to the pdoc wednesday is like going into a "very short" battle, i want to be prepared, lol.
parnate and anafranil are 2 great options, i hope you are well.....john
Posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 10:12:16
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » john berk, posted by Phillipa on March 9, 2006, at 23:02:08
> John you too? An MAOI? Fondly, Phillipa ps I thought the prozac was working pretty good for you
Phillipa, Have you ever been on an MAOI? You seem to dislike MAOI's..Why?:) Tyler
Posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 12:10:04
In reply to 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs...., posted by TylerJ on March 9, 2006, at 10:23:41
Here's my list of drugs I've taken in just the past three years:
Lexapro, Paxil, Effexor XR, WEllbutrin, Zoloft, REmeron, Lithium, Depakote, Neurontin, Lamictal, Trileptal, TOpamax, Keppra, Risperdal, Zyprexa, Abilify, Trilafon, Haldol, Seroquel, Atarax/Vistaril, Ativan, Klonopin, Xanax, Propranolol, Strattera, Provigil, Adderall, Concerta, Dexedrine, Ambien, Trazodone, SOnata, Resotirl, Halcion, and Lunesta.
Wow... at this point, I'm very deeply depressed. Does anyone have any suggestions for something I haven't tried or something I should try again?
CB
Posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 12:58:21
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 12:10:04
> Here's my list of drugs I've taken in just the past three years:
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> Lexapro, Paxil, Effexor XR, WEllbutrin, Zoloft, REmeron, Lithium, Depakote, Neurontin, Lamictal, Trileptal, TOpamax, Keppra, Risperdal, Zyprexa, Abilify, Trilafon, Haldol, Seroquel, Atarax/Vistaril, Ativan, Klonopin, Xanax, Propranolol, Strattera, Provigil, Adderall, Concerta, Dexedrine, Ambien, Trazodone, SOnata, Resotirl, Halcion, and Lunesta.
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> Wow... at this point, I'm very deeply depressed. Does anyone have any suggestions for something I haven't tried or something I should try again?
> CB
How about the MAOI's? Parnate, Nardil or EMSAM "The Patch."
Ty
Posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 13:38:04
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » CareBear04, posted by TylerJ on March 10, 2006, at 12:58:21
thansk for the suggestion. my drs have never suggested MAOIs or even tricyclics, though I'd be willing to try them. I see my dr soon; maybe i'll ask, but i have a feeling there might be too many interactions since i'm on so many meds. thanks again,
CB
Posted by gibber on March 10, 2006, at 14:55:29
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 13:38:04
CareBear,
You said you aren't feeling well so why would you continue the meds you are on? There's a good chance MAOIs will conflict with your current regime so you'd have to let go of that combo. Give MAOIs a shot!
Posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2006, at 15:15:34
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » ed_uk, posted by john berk on March 9, 2006, at 19:12:58
Hi J
>as a matter of fact it didn't, i actually started my running program while on tofranil. are they basically the same in that respect...
Well that's a good sign. TCAs can affect heart rate and blood pressure. Are you still interested in clomipramine?
ed
Posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2006, at 15:17:22
In reply to Re: 25 years of Psychiatric Drugs.... » TylerJ, posted by CareBear04 on March 10, 2006, at 13:38:04
Hi CB
Which med(s) helped the most? It sounds like you benefitted from 1mg Haldol.
Ed
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