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Posted by strugglingsteve on November 21, 2005, at 21:20:30
I am about to begin Nardil and have some questions about the diet. I have read that certain pizzas are ok, but what about pepperoni or sausage on them? Someone wrote that big chain varieties are ok. What about oscar meyer bologna for sandwiches, turkey breast slices, corned beef etc, and also what about whey protein powder that has hydrolyzed yeast in it?
Posted by gibber on November 21, 2005, at 23:24:55
In reply to Maoi diet: cold cuts and whey protein powder, posted by strugglingsteve on November 21, 2005, at 21:20:30
I have heard that pepperoni definitely has tyramine and should not be eaten. Salami and fermented/dry sausage is out too, whatever that is. I'm confused about pizza in general. I love it, but it seems risky with the cheese and all. I'd like to know how you do on Nardil. I will probably be trying it soon.
gibber
I got some of this info from a photocopy my doctor gave me.
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 22, 2005, at 10:56:30
In reply to Maoi diet: cold cuts and whey protein powder, posted by strugglingsteve on November 21, 2005, at 21:20:30
> I am about to begin Nardil and have some questions about the diet. I have read that certain pizzas are ok, but what about pepperoni or sausage on them? Someone wrote that big chain varieties are ok.
Dr. Shulman, of Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto, took the toppings off of 1/2 of a medium Pizza Hut double cheese and pepperoni pizza, and found that the total amount of tyramine in all of that material, cheese and pepperoni and everything, was about 1% of the dose that the people most sensitive to tyramine need to be concerned about.
> What about oscar meyer bologna for sandwiches, turkey breast slices, corned beef etc, and also what about whey protein powder that has hydrolyzed yeast in it?
Regular sandwich meats were found to be okay. Corned beef might be pushing it, I don't know. And why would protein powder have hydrolyzed yeast in it?
I quoted directly from some Shulman papers in the following link. I must have had the full-text at one point, but I can't find it now. Anyway, you should read through what it says.
Lar
Posted by strugglingsteve on November 22, 2005, at 13:02:02
In reply to Re: Maoi diet: cold cuts and whey protein powder » strugglingsteve, posted by Larry Hoover on November 22, 2005, at 10:56:30
Thank you so much for replying. I read the whey powder list of ingredients and it listed hydrolyzed yeast...isnt the bad yeast marmite though? So bologna and turkey should be ok? Do you take an maoi? What about chinese fried rice, too much soy in it or ok?
> > I am about to begin Nardil and have some questions about the diet. I have read that certain pizzas are ok, but what about pepperoni or sausage on them? Someone wrote that big chain varieties are ok.
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> Dr. Shulman, of Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto, took the toppings off of 1/2 of a medium Pizza Hut double cheese and pepperoni pizza, and found that the total amount of tyramine in all of that material, cheese and pepperoni and everything, was about 1% of the dose that the people most sensitive to tyramine need to be concerned about.
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> > What about oscar meyer bologna for sandwiches, turkey breast slices, corned beef etc, and also what about whey protein powder that has hydrolyzed yeast in it?
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> Regular sandwich meats were found to be okay. Corned beef might be pushing it, I don't know. And why would protein powder have hydrolyzed yeast in it?
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> I quoted directly from some Shulman papers in the following link. I must have had the full-text at one point, but I can't find it now. Anyway, you should read through what it says.
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> http://tinyurl.com/8e3ok
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> Lar
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