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Posted by 4WD on July 24, 2005, at 23:09:47
Hi all,
I'm going to try and take a break from Babble. It seems like I'm spending a lot of time frantically trying to figure out what might be the magic med. It keeps me anxious and focused on my depression. I'm going to try an experiment- trying to get out of the mindset of thinking of myself as a "depressed person" and driving myself crazy over specific receptors and neurotransmitters.
I guess this is an addiction like any other. So maybe I'll have to wean myself. We'll see.
I hope you all get well!
Marsha
Posted by Deneb on July 24, 2005, at 23:20:22
In reply to Won't be posting as much, posted by 4WD on July 24, 2005, at 23:09:47
> Hi all,
>
> ... I'm going to try an experiment- trying to get out of the mindset of thinking of myself as a "depressed person" and driving myself crazy over specific receptors and neurotransmitters.Hi Marsha!
I think that's a great idea (not thinking of oneself as a "depressed person"). Don't worry, be happy! I hope you have lots of fun.
Deneb
Posted by Declan on July 25, 2005, at 0:36:46
In reply to Won't be posting as much, posted by 4WD on July 24, 2005, at 23:09:47
Posted by ace on July 25, 2005, at 0:42:21
In reply to Won't be posting as much, posted by 4WD on July 24, 2005, at 23:09:47
> Hi all,
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> I'm going to try and take a break from Babble. It seems like I'm spending a lot of time frantically trying to figure out what might be the magic med.Keep trying!!!
It keeps me anxious and focused on my depression. I'm going to try an experiment- trying to get out of the mindset of thinking of myself as a "depressed person" and driving myself crazy over specific receptors and neurotransmitters.I believe these are the genisis of your problem so still focus on them! Don't give in until you find the right med -- it took me years!
>
> I guess this is an addiction like any other. So maybe I'll have to wean myself. We'll see.
>
> I hope you all get well!
>
> Marsha
Posted by SLS on July 25, 2005, at 2:36:26
In reply to Won't be posting as much, posted by 4WD on July 24, 2005, at 23:09:47
Hi Marsha.
I think you gotta do what you gotta do.
Perhaps you have become consumed with the minutia of depressive illness and dwell constantly on receptors, neurotransmitters, and all of the other things that are not necessary to know to get well.
It might indeed be a good idea to fall-back and reorganize. Find a more balanced perspective and approach towards achieving your goal - mental health - without becoming so focused on mental illness.
If you do come back to PB, you might want to post from time to time questions about how specific drugs have affected people or ask generally clinical questions rather than try to figure out the biology of affective disorders, something that the best minds in the world have not yet been able to do.
Words are important because they are often the only way in which we can communicate ideas. You say that you want to stop thinking of yourself as a depressed person. What is it that you are trying to think of yourself as?
Whatever words you choose, you might discover or rediscover that you indeed do suffer from an affective disorder - depression. Many people think of themselves and define themselves as being their depression. In this case, it becomes extremely important to think of oneself as being far more than just the depression. We are all more than our illnesses. We are human beings.
- Scott
Posted by Tom Twilight on July 25, 2005, at 15:20:01
In reply to Won't be posting as much, posted by 4WD on July 24, 2005, at 23:09:47
I don't mean to be rude or question what you think is best, so I'm sorry if I come across that way, I'm just really tired!
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> I'm going to try and take a break from Babble. It keeps me anxious and focused on my depression.Its not automaticly bad to focus on ones problems. I often thought, when I was feeling down that my interest in babble was 'bad' and counter productive, now I think I was wrong.
As Ace said, sometimes you have to try a lot of meds before you find the one that works for you.
I think the search an obsession is worth it when you find a medication that finally worksJust a thought
Posted by ed_uk on July 25, 2005, at 16:56:50
In reply to Won't be posting as much, posted by 4WD on July 24, 2005, at 23:09:47
Hi Marsha,
We'll miss you! Come back soon :-)
~Ed
Posted by Phillipa on July 25, 2005, at 19:26:15
In reply to Re: Won't be posting as much » 4WD, posted by ed_uk on July 25, 2005, at 16:56:50
Marsha I think that the mutual support that we get here is what's the most important. I am constantly overwhelmed by the vast knowledge of others more educated than myself in neurotransmitters etc. I think Scott said it very well. Maybe sticking with social for a while might be beneficial. But if you feel you must than try a break. Remember my Babblemail is always open to you. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by 4WD on July 25, 2005, at 21:08:02
In reply to Re: Won't be posting as much » 4WD, posted by SLS on July 25, 2005, at 2:36:26
I'm back already. Couldn't resist replying.
I just get so consumed with posts where someone says a particular drug worked for them. Then I start thinking "oh, that's what I need to try" and then the next day there's another and I think the same thing.
I spend my days obsessing about drugs and meds and dosages. I'm obsessed with my Klonopin dosage - I'm only taking .5 mg a day and need more some days but am scared of dependence. I worry about which AD to take. Celexa doesn't work at all for anxiety but it's the only one I can tolerate. My new pdoc wants me to try Remeron but i'm scared of the food cravings (recovering bulimic here) and scared of the rebound insomnia if/when I go off it. Could I start out at the 45mg dosage to avoid the low dosage side effects? Why does that happen anyway?
I'm wondering if I ought to try Nardil but am terrified of the insomnia and food cravings. I just spend way too much time ruminating constantly about what I should be on. It's become an obsession. I'm just afraid reading all the med posts is contributing to this.
Anyway, I love all you guys. I don't know what I'll end up doing - med wise and babble wise.
Marsha
Posted by Phillipa on July 25, 2005, at 21:50:36
In reply to Re: Won't be posting as much, posted by 4WD on July 25, 2005, at 21:08:02
Marsha, stick around. I do exactly the same thing you do. Maybe we should Babblemail or E-mail and discuss all our confusion. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by DoYouKnowHim? on July 26, 2005, at 0:56:26
In reply to Re: Won't be posting as much, posted by 4WD on July 25, 2005, at 21:08:02
Marsha:
Klonopin gets a bad reputation, but that's from people who use it on a recreational basis (and not people who really need it). I've been on it for eigth years, anywhere from 0.5 to 4 mg per day. Never had any problems with it. If you need more than 0.5 then you should take it.
As far as the AD's, doctors know they work, but they don't know which one works for whom. You just have to find out by trial and error. That stinks, but the good news is that there are so many meds, that something somewhere should help. Michael
Posted by stresser on July 27, 2005, at 22:01:22
In reply to Re: Won't be posting as much » 4WD, posted by Phillipa on July 25, 2005, at 21:50:36
Marsha,
I think several of us do what you are doing. We are searching for the correct medication, because we know it's out there. Don't worry about it, because I did the same thing for my daughter, and found the correct meds.(along with the doctor) It did take around two years to get everything working together. Here's another thought, and it worked for us; we found a new doctor. Don't give up, because you owe it to yourself, just as if you were doing it for a loved one. Right? Keep us posed. -L
Posted by 4WD on July 27, 2005, at 22:46:01
In reply to Re: Won't be posting as much, posted by stresser on July 27, 2005, at 22:01:22
> Marsha,
>
> I think several of us do what you are doing. We are searching for the correct medication, because we know it's out there. Don't worry about it, because I did the same thing for my daughter, and found the correct meds.(along with the doctor) It did take around two years to get everything working together. Here's another thought, and it worked for us; we found a new doctor. Don't give up, because you owe it to yourself, just as if you were doing it for a loved one. Right? Keep us posed. -L
Thanks. I'm trying a new doctor, actually. I see him for he second time tomorrow. I'm scared to let go of my old doctor yet, though.I have this terrible fear of switching doctors. At least the one I've been going to has been willing to try my suggestions. (But that's because he's out of ideas, himself, I think.) His next plan is Nardil and I'm terrified of the weight/food issues and of the insomnia.
I also have this fear that a new doctor will want me to stop Klonopin. Which is paradoxical because I also want to stop Klonopin. But I'm terrified of the anxiety and so far the Klonopin is the only thing standing between me and uncontrolled fear. I find myself hoarding it, "just in case" - which is weird because I have absolutely no abuse issues with it.
We'll see what happens tomorrow.
Thanks,
Marsha
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