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Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 0:26:52
In reply to Re: Take your pill...or not, posted by flmm on July 17, 2005, at 21:49:44
to let u know, i think of others way more than i think of myself. when u are able to disprove that some have a chemical balance and that the depression is not b/c some1 is "SELF-OBSESSED" then i guess u will be rich b/c u will know more than most do re: this area. everyone undergoes mood changes in their lives but until u have truly been where some of us are you cannot begin to comprehend what an awful feeling it is and how it only makes it worse when people such as yourself say it can be lifted by thinking of others. i am one of the most stubborn and strong willed people many know and have tried to "WILL" myself out of depression. it doesn't work that easy, even though i wish it did. can a person will their way through cancer?,diabetes?,HIV?,etc.. I am not saying that a positive attitude cannot help people that are ill but i have never known of some1 to cure HIV b/c they are not self obsessed and think of others. the problem is that depression along w/other mental illnesses is not viewed as an illness in the same category when there is more medical evidence every day that it is an illness and requires medical help. to each his own though-Carolina
Posted by linkadge on July 18, 2005, at 6:28:27
In reply to Re: Take your pill...or not, posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 0:26:52
We're not just thinking about ourselves. Thats why we're here !! Not just to get help but to help others.
But yeah, do you tell someone with cancer to stop complaining and take their mind off theirselves ?
I will agree that depressed people think about themselves, but thats why depression exists. Usually we get depressed because the world ask so much of us that we don't have the willpower to care about ourselves.
If we don't express our pain, who will ??
Linkadge
Posted by crazychickuk on July 18, 2005, at 8:12:00
In reply to Well said » carolina, posted by linkadge on July 18, 2005, at 6:28:27
How can you come here and say this?
alot of us here have been and am still going through hell!!
You have obviousley found the best cure for yours if you are a sufferer!
some of us still havent and am going through hell finding it! finding the right understanding doc to prescribe!
some people hat used to come here yrs ago when i started have passed away due to the docs neglance (sp) so for you to stick up for most docs then you get a life !!
some docs are great and others are morons who pescribe you an ad if you go there with a bad foot !!
Donna xx
Posted by flmm on July 18, 2005, at 9:51:10
In reply to Re: take your pill or not ?, posted by crazychickuk on July 18, 2005, at 8:12:00
You people have no idea of my struggles! I have been there, and continue to struggle. But, there is a level of responsibility that I believe has to be taken on by the patient as well. Are we so fragile as to not be able to handle any contstructive criticism whatsoever?
Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 10:25:27
In reply to Re: take your pill or not ?, posted by flmm on July 18, 2005, at 9:51:10
well maybe you need to do a little more research into what "constructive criticism" actually is. the way that you come across does not seem constructive to many of us or should i say "YOU PEOPLE". and YES some of the people are fragile which is why they are here for SUPPORT!!! not to be spoken down to like we are ignorant or only want to cry about our situations. and FYI, i think that just participating on this forum is taking "RESPONSIBILITY" by trying to gather info. that may help us. by the way-what degree do u have? just curious since u know much more than us. take care-Carolina
Posted by crazychickuk on July 18, 2005, at 10:42:16
In reply to Re: take your pill or not ?, posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 10:25:27
Think your way out of line to come on here and post like this !!
glad your seeking help and have found your meds gr8 doc etc, but some of us are still struggling to the point where we can not trust doctors due to experiences with others..
plse for now keep your neg thoughts to yourselves o post onto another forum as this is a respectable forum where we come for support..
take care
Donna xx
Posted by flmm on July 18, 2005, at 11:04:16
In reply to Re: take your pill or not ?, posted by flmm on July 18, 2005, at 9:51:10
I will back off as it is clear you do not understand what I am trying to say! However, my issues run very deep as well, but feeling sorry for myself is something I am trying to avoid. The attacks against me seem angry and hostile, I am merely hoping we can all develop some much needed backbone! The meds ain't gonna do it alone!
Posted by crazychickuk on July 18, 2005, at 11:08:47
In reply to Re: take your pill or not ?, posted by flmm on July 18, 2005, at 11:04:16
O i completely understand..
meds aint the only ans wer, your post came accross to me as ermm how can i explain, as if you were telling us all to get a life and listen to the docs and if we dont take our meds or moan its our own fault etc etc..
i do say however that meds alone aint the answer and thearpy needs to be included which myself have gotton into and it does work when your on a good day then a bad comes and for me its hard to make myself positive as to know that i can be there again if you get me?
dont want you to feel like we are being angry with you, its just the way your post came out..
Care to put it all back into a kinder version so we can all understand what you mean? in a good way?
Donna xx
Posted by mellymel_d on July 18, 2005, at 13:21:10
In reply to Re: Take your pill...or not, posted by flmm on July 17, 2005, at 21:49:44
Are u related to Tom Cruise??? Just wondering...
Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 13:32:27
In reply to Re: Take your pill...or not- Tom Cruise???, posted by mellymel_d on July 18, 2005, at 13:21:10
ok, maybe u came across wrong which is why we aren't responding to you as warmly as we do others. maybe u should reread ur original post and look at it from "OUR" point of view??? maybe how u MEANT 4 something to sound, it did not??? some of the people on this forum ARE hurting,lonely,confused or just need a kind word of encouragement to let them know that they are not alone. some ask questions RE: meds and discuss issues related to that. just look over ur original post and if u still do not understand the response u are getting then i feel for u...-take care Carolina
Posted by so on July 18, 2005, at 14:22:43
In reply to Re: Take your pill...or not- Tom Cruise???, posted by mellymel_d on July 18, 2005, at 13:21:10
> Are u related to Tom Cruise??? Just wondering...
I'm not, at least not closely. Are you related to somebody who holds stock in a chemical company or a pharamceutical company?
Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 14:41:19
In reply to Re: Take your pill...or not- Tom Cruise???, posted by mellymel_d on July 18, 2005, at 13:21:10
whats up w/ the al queda info??? unless u are the former flmm and using so as ur new posting name, why would u respond like that towards some1 that said nothing to u???just wondering if i misunderstood something. i really thought this was dropped-Carolina
Posted by crazychickuk on July 18, 2005, at 14:43:13
In reply to Re: Take your pill...or not- Tom Cruise???, posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 14:41:19
Posted by Declan on July 18, 2005, at 15:36:06
In reply to Re: Take your pill.or not- multiple personalitys?? (nm), posted by crazychickuk on July 18, 2005, at 14:43:13
Posted by ed_uk on July 18, 2005, at 15:45:30
In reply to Al Queda....Did I miss something? (nm), posted by Declan on July 18, 2005, at 15:36:06
Posted by Declan on July 18, 2005, at 15:49:20
In reply to That's what I was thinking.... (nm) » Declan, posted by ed_uk on July 18, 2005, at 15:45:30
It's down below and will soon be escorted off the premesis to the Politics Board.
Declan
Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 15:49:27
In reply to Al Queda....Did I miss something? (nm), posted by Declan on July 18, 2005, at 15:36:06
would some1 PLEASE fill me in???????-lost in CAROLINA
Posted by mispanicked on July 18, 2005, at 15:53:20
In reply to Re: Al Queda....Did I miss something?, posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 15:49:27
I am lost too. When did this become about terrorists??
Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 16:02:10
In reply to Re: Al Queda....Did I miss something?, posted by mispanicked on July 18, 2005, at 15:53:20
i do not know-thats why i didnt want to respond to the mult. personalities comment just yet. All i know is that flmm hasn't responded and now "so" has brought this crap into the topic. got me???? not a subject im getting involved in-i would prob. get kicked off-Carolina
Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 16:04:06
In reply to Re: Al Queda....Did I miss something?, posted by mispanicked on July 18, 2005, at 15:53:20
Posted by flmm on July 18, 2005, at 16:30:32
In reply to SO-u aren't worth my time (nm), posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 16:04:06
I have no idea what "so" is talking about and I DO NOT use any alias posts!
Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 17:07:08
In reply to Re: SO-u aren't worth my time, posted by flmm on July 18, 2005, at 16:30:32
ur a bit touchy aren't u? it was a response-not an accusation (although i did wonder if it was u)
calm down-no1 really cares anymore so let it be-Carolina
Posted by so on July 18, 2005, at 17:08:36
In reply to Re: Al Queda....Did I miss something?, posted by mispanicked on July 18, 2005, at 15:53:20
> I am lost too. When did this become about terrorists??
It's been about terrorists since psychiatrists started to manipulate vulnerable disenfranchised individuals to commit acts of terror.
http://www.insight.com.ru/Free-Style%20Report.html
http://www.freedommag.org/english/vol36i2/freedom-mag.htm
Posted by flmm on July 18, 2005, at 17:42:41
In reply to it's ok flmm-calm down, posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 17:07:08
Hey caroline, no I am not a bit touchy. I do not appreciate your accusations. You are an antagonizer! Careful what you say!
Posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 18:40:56
In reply to it's ok flmm-calm down, posted by carolina on July 18, 2005, at 17:07:08
ok i've had enough of u and ur snot nosed attitude. i have been called worse by MUCH better and whatever ur "treatment" is, it definately is NOT WORKING....HMMMMMM MEDS????? or electric shock therapy? as we say in the south-KMAB-take care-CarolinA
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