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Posted by ace on April 17, 2005, at 20:44:14
Guys, guess what....! I went back to 60mg Nardil. I had an abcess on my tooth and I do not know how I ended up with the conclusion that Demerol had to be used. However, I was only at 30mg Nardil at the time, and was using higher doses of Xanax, which probably made me "all over the place" and misheard my doc.
Anyhow here is the situation....
1. I am going of Lamictal
2. I I am swapping Seroquel for Risperidone
3. Stay at 2mg Xanax
Now the nardil situation. On the weekend I played my first gig as guitarist and vocalist of my band....social phobia was quite bad -- i was VERY self conscious and inhibited. I remember when I played my first gig ever I was more confident (I was the drummer/singer of my band)-- at that point Nardil was working like a gem!!Don't get me wrong -- Nardil is still doing a great job -- going down to 30mg and then falling apart at this lower dose showed me.
But, how can we get those really confident feelings again with Nardil? (remember I couldn't even eat in front of people i was so self-conscious before Nardil) It's social phobic effects have waned and its phoic anxiety effects (and deppressive effects have too) Although IT IS STILL, WITHOUBT DOUBT, HELPING. I don't care about euphoria -- just happiness and motivation. These days I have a shower once a week and don't really care about my clothes. I remember all those years ago when Nardil full kicked in, I started enjoying washing, doing my clothes, walking around -- everything!!! It was magical!
Here is my plans1. Boost Nardil to 105mg-150mg/day
2. Have one day off combined with sleep deprivation
3. Hesitant -- go down to 15mg for a month or two
4. Very hesitant -- stp Nardil for 4 months and re-start.But, who knows, maybe the Risperidone will really push it into order -- I remember when I first had risperidone, I was really happy. It was combined with the Nardil ofcourse.
PLEASE GIVE THE ACE-MAN YOUR THOUGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ACE!!!
Posted by Phillipa on April 17, 2005, at 22:54:50
In reply to Ace Nardil and other issues!!!!, posted by ace on April 17, 2005, at 20:44:14
Ace You are the Champ! Wait for Ed or one of the other med experts. You know what works best for you and you just restarted. Maybe give it some time? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Joe1 on April 17, 2005, at 23:59:53
In reply to Re: Ace Nardil and other issues!!!! » ace, posted by Phillipa on April 17, 2005, at 22:54:50
You are not alone in this nardil problem.
The new nardil is not as good as the old nardil
and for some people like me it completly stopped
working .You should check out this web site:
WWW.anxietyhelp.org/treatment/medication/nardil.html and also www.stratguitar.com
check it out
joe
Posted by crazychickuk on April 18, 2005, at 7:31:44
In reply to Ace Nardil and other issues!!!!, posted by ace on April 17, 2005, at 20:44:14
Ace wat if the nardil dont work second time round when u stop? there is a big risk!!
Posted by ed_uk on April 18, 2005, at 10:25:03
In reply to Ace Nardil and other issues!!!!, posted by ace on April 17, 2005, at 20:44:14
Hi Ace!
I'm so glad you've changed your mind about coming off Nardil :-D
>Boost Nardil to 105mg-150mg/day
You said you were on 60mg at the moment. I think you should increase back up to 90mg. If side effects are mild you could try increasing to 105mg if necessary.
Ed.
Posted by ace on April 18, 2005, at 22:33:46
In reply to Re: Ace Nardil and other issues!!!! » ace, posted by ed_uk on April 18, 2005, at 10:25:03
> Hi Ace!
>
> I'm so glad you've changed your mind about coming off Nardil :-D
>
> >Boost Nardil to 105mg-150mg/day
>
> You said you were on 60mg at the moment. I think you should increase back up to 90mg. If side effects are mild you could try increasing to 105mg if necessary.
>
> Ed.Side effects with Nardil have never been any problem with me.
I am feeling quite depressed now, don't know why. It could be exogenous- i have moved to a real bad house, but, then again, i could have been living in the gutter before when Nardil was working and been as happy as a a lark....
I'm trying to find a logical coherent explanation...
1. I've tried every augmentation strategy just about -- only Remeron really helped (but with masssive weight gain).
2. If we up to 90-105mg and this doesn't work we can rule out that my liver isn't working overtime.
3. is it possible my post-synaptic receptors have just lost sensitivity??
4. Interactions?? My doc thinks that all the drugs im taking could be causeing my undulating moods...i know herbs + SSRI have been implicated in SSRI poop-out, but i'm not so sure in my case...
im also going off lamictal -- it provided a short term temporary bosst in AD quality which faded quick.
my meds nowNardil - 60
Lamictal - 150 (going down)
Xanax- 2-4mg
Seroquel - 150 (soon changing to Risperidone 0.5-1mg)
Any help appreciated!!!ace
Posted by ed_uk on April 19, 2005, at 8:33:19
In reply to Re: Thank You all!!! ATTN: ED UK » ed_uk, posted by ace on April 18, 2005, at 22:33:46
Hi Andrew!
I think you were on Nardil 90mg quite recently. Was it still inadequate at 90mg?
Ed.
Posted by ace on April 19, 2005, at 19:54:54
In reply to Re: Thank You all!!! ATTN: ED UK » ace, posted by ed_uk on April 19, 2005, at 8:33:19
> Hi Andrew!
>
> I think you were on Nardil 90mg quite recently. Was it still inadequate at 90mg?
>
> Ed.I might have been on 90mg recently for maybe a day or two, but its been a good 8 months since i raised to 90mg long term
tell me what u think...
ace
Posted by ed_uk on April 20, 2005, at 7:27:52
In reply to Re: Thank You all!!! ATTN: ED UK » ed_uk, posted by ace on April 19, 2005, at 19:54:54
Hi Andrew!
I think you should consider increasing the Nardil dose back up to 90mg. Try 75mg for a few weeks first.
You might find that the increased dose of Nardil is perfectly good and you don't need to add any additional medication :-)
Ed.
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