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Posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 20:36:58
My brain is on fire! It just keeps going faster. And I can't focus on anything for more than, like two minutes. I freakin' happy about absoulutly nothing and I can sit still. Everyone else is going in slow motion and I seem to be slowing down two because there are so many thoughts that I'm just getting confused. Sound like anyone elses experience?
I made an emergency appointment with my pdoc today. He said it seemed like I was bearly holding on. That's actually how I feel. He said if things go out of control to go to the hospital. He took me off of the Cymbalta (good move) and increased my Seroquel. But in my oppinion, Seroquel sucks as a mood stabilizer. We'll see if I start feeling better in a few days. Meanwhile I have class, which is bad cause I can't read. Should I just go to the hospital now? If only the wouldn't lock me up and if only it weren't so expensive.
you guys, I feel like I'm on the edge of insanity here.
dm
Posted by banga on April 12, 2005, at 20:48:25
In reply to Hypomania does NOT equal Fun., posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 20:36:58
Since you saw your doctor today, does it seem like it is getting worse?
Posted by banga on April 12, 2005, at 21:02:31
In reply to Re: Hypomania does NOT equal Fun., posted by banga on April 12, 2005, at 20:48:25
If this is bad enough to consider going to the hospital, it is a full manic episode.
If you're losing control you need to go to the hospital ASAP!
Posted by Phillipa on April 12, 2005, at 21:24:08
In reply to Re: Hypomania does NOT equal Fun., posted by banga on April 12, 2005, at 21:02:31
Yes, what's worse a few lost days, or a few weeks if you cross the line. I'd go to the hospital. Banga's right. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on April 12, 2005, at 23:13:52
In reply to Re: Hypomania does NOT equal Fun., posted by banga on April 12, 2005, at 21:02:31
> If this is bad enough to consider going to the hospital, it is a full manic episode.
> If you're losing control you need to go to the hospital ASAP!Banga is right. Your doctor is a moron to think that Seroquel is enough. You need to try a mood stabiliser like Depakote or Lithium. You need to get on something ASAP because otherwise you will eventually crash on your own and it won't be fun.
They won't commit you. They will find a med that will help you feel and stay in control.
I really think you should go. I've been where you are. It's not fun. Go before someone has to force you ... then it's really not fun.
Take care.
Hugs,
Maxime
Posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 23:54:05
In reply to Re: Hypomania does NOT equal Fun., posted by Maxime on April 12, 2005, at 23:13:52
Part of me would love to go to the hosptial and get my meds figured out. But I'm still in control and it isn't worse. My family doesn't want me to go, and they're the one's who would be paying for it. They say its a last resort.
We'll see how I do with this increase in Seroquel. Is it really a weak mood stabilizer? (I thought that was just my impression of it). I'm doing really well now. Feeling stable at the moment. So don't worry about me. Sorry to cause concern. Thank you all so much,
dm
Posted by banga on April 13, 2005, at 0:10:37
In reply to I can't go, posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 23:54:05
HI there,
Seroquel is simply not a mood stabilizer. It is an antipsychotic that can help,especially with spcyhotic symptoms, but it is not a replacement for something like lithium.
I too am not sure what your pdoc is planning.I can understand the barriers that make the hospitalization complex, but please keep tabs on yourself--have others give you feedback, to say if you seem ok or if it is getting worse.
You need to get help BEFORE not after it gets too much to handle on your own. My fear is with mania, you can lose your judgement to do what is best for yourself.
Please take care,
B.
Posted by Phillipa on April 13, 2005, at 0:27:45
In reply to Re: I can't go, posted by banga on April 13, 2005, at 0:10:37
I'm glad you're with your family. You are aren't you? Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on April 13, 2005, at 0:28:50
In reply to I can't go, posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 23:54:05
D, does your family understand your illness? The thing with mania is it gets out of control very quickly and then you are no place to make any judgements.
Call your pdoc tomorrow. Tell him you want a real mood stabiliser.
How old are you?
Check in tomorrow and let us know how you are doing, okay?
You are not alone. :-)
Maxime
> Part of me would love to go to the hosptial and get my meds figured out. But I'm still in control and it isn't worse. My family doesn't want me to go, and they're the one's who would be paying for it. They say its a last resort.
>
> We'll see how I do with this increase in Seroquel. Is it really a weak mood stabilizer? (I thought that was just my impression of it). I'm doing really well now. Feeling stable at the moment. So don't worry about me. Sorry to cause concern. Thank you all so much,
>
> dm
Posted by PM80 on April 13, 2005, at 7:36:19
In reply to I can't go, posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 23:54:05
Seroquel is not generally a mood stabilizer, but it is FDA approved to treat mania. I agree with the others that in the long term a more typical mood stabilizer may help you more (although there is a small population that uses Seroquel as a mood stabilizer) In the short term, for this episode, it could help because it does have sedating effects. If it is not working, you should definitely ask your pdoc if you can up the dose or add something new. Generally 800mg is the highest theraputic dose. Bottom line, regardless of a medicine's label, if it works - keep taking it, if it does not work - try something else.
Posted by banga on April 13, 2005, at 8:27:42
In reply to Re: I can't go, posted by PM80 on April 13, 2005, at 7:36:19
> Seroquel is not generally a mood stabilizer, but it is FDA approved to treat mania.
Yes you are right, sorry if I gave a different impression. It is used for mania, I meant to comment more on the oddity that his pdoc didnt have Dminor on a mood stabilizer earlier on....
My cousin was brought down from a blossoming mania with Zyprexa very quickly...
Posted by banga on April 13, 2005, at 8:29:24
In reply to I can't go, posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 23:54:05
Are you here? could you tell us what is going on if you are?
Maxime brings up a great point--does your family understand your illness?
Wishing the best,
B.
Posted by D minor on April 13, 2005, at 11:28:01
In reply to Are you there? » D minor, posted by banga on April 13, 2005, at 8:29:24
It's too early in the morning to tell how I'm doing just yet, but I wanted to let you know that I am here. Actually, I feel a little depressed. I'm going to work now, and I'll let y'all know how I'm doing a little later.
How old am I? LOL, I'm 24, but my husband and I are still very poor, so my parents are paying all the hospital bills. They are still trying to pay off from when I went two years ago. They don't believe the hospital could help me at all.
dm
Posted by PM80 on April 13, 2005, at 11:50:48
In reply to Re: Are you there?- Yes, posted by D minor on April 13, 2005, at 11:28:01
Just fyi, I felt a little depressed waking up when I took only Seroquel. It cut off my highs, but left my lows. I'm now also on Depakote, which really helps with my depression. Definitely ask your doctor about mood stabilizers. They are cheaper than antipsychotics, generally. He we probably be more than willing to help. If you don't understand a decision of his (regarding your meds) do not be afraid to ask why. Anyway, hang in there. I hope today is better for you.
Posted by Maximus on April 13, 2005, at 13:42:09
In reply to Hypomania does NOT equal Fun., posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 20:36:58
A good dose of Seroquel is needed to stop a manic episode, see 400 mg and higher.
Posted by emme on April 13, 2005, at 13:46:11
In reply to I can't go, posted by D minor on April 12, 2005, at 23:54:05
> We'll see how I do with this increase in Seroquel. Is it really a weak mood stabilizer? (I thought that was just my impression of it).I have a good friend with bipolar I who does very well on Seroquel. She has had some wicked manias. Seroquel seems to be the best med she's had in a long time. It may be a matter of dose for you. When my friend starts to get a bit manic, a temporary increase in dose brings it back down.
Posted by thinkfast on April 13, 2005, at 19:35:22
In reply to Re: I can't go, posted by banga on April 13, 2005, at 0:10:37
Seroquel is a crap mood stabilizer even at 200mg every night...it didn't work for my roomate either...Trileptal has been doing well for me.
Peace and good luck with your meds.
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