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Posted by Tepiaca on March 8, 2005, at 21:10:17
Hello guys
I need your help , I am planning to reach 90mg of Nardil for the first time. One year ago I reached the 75 but then I had an Hypertensive C and I had to suspend it , then I started to taking it again but only to 45 or 60mg. My imsomnia was terrible at 75mg. I believe this is not gonna be a problem now, because of Seroquel.How fast should I reach the 90´s ?
Im on 45mg...... maybe
increasing to 60mg for 5 days ,
then 75mg for one week and
then finally 90mg.What do you think babblers??
What would you do in my position??Tep
Posted by SLS on March 8, 2005, at 23:01:36
In reply to Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls, posted by Tepiaca on March 8, 2005, at 21:10:17
> Hello guys
> I need your help , I am planning to reach 90mg of Nardil for the first time. One year ago I reached the 75 but then I had an Hypertensive C and I had to suspend it , then I started to taking it again but only to 45 or 60mg. My imsomnia was terrible at 75mg. I believe this is not gonna be a problem now, because of Seroquel.
>
> How fast should I reach the 90´s ?
>
> Im on 45mg...... maybe
> increasing to 60mg for 5 days ,
> then 75mg for one week and
> then finally 90mg.
>
> What do you think babblers??
> What would you do in my position??
>
> Tep
I would spend 2-3 weeks at each dosage to:1. Evaluate the potential for therapeutic response.
2. Minimize side effects - once you get them, they are sometimes hard to get rid of.
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk on March 9, 2005, at 8:05:13
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls, posted by SLS on March 8, 2005, at 23:01:36
Hi Tep!
>My imsomnia was terrible at 75mg.
How long did you take 75mg for?
Did you have any other side effects apart from insomnia?
How fast did you increase the dose last time?
Did you benefit from 75mg?Best Regards,
Ed.
Posted by Tepiaca on March 9, 2005, at 20:17:15
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls, posted by SLS on March 8, 2005, at 23:01:36
Posted by Tepiaca on March 9, 2005, at 20:25:32
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls, posted by ed_uk on March 9, 2005, at 8:05:13
> How long did you take 75mg for?4 weeks exactly
> Did you have any other side effects apart from insomnia?
Anorgasmia, and also I couldn´t do exercise without getting exausted very fast. A little bit of weigth gain also.> How fast did you increase the dose last time?
Very Slow , I was 4 or 5 weeks on 60mg, then I increased to 75
> Did you benefit from 75mg?mmm , I dont believe so , only my side effects were greater
Regards Ed !!Tep
Posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2005, at 9:03:04
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » ed_uk, posted by Tepiaca on March 9, 2005, at 20:25:32
Hi Tep!
>mmm , I dont believe so , only my side effects were greater
4 weeks isn't long, some people take longer to respond for anxiety.
>Anorgasmia
Oh well, it's not that much of a big deal compared with social phobia!
Good luck increasing,
Ed.
Posted by SLS on March 10, 2005, at 9:12:41
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » Tepiaca, posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2005, at 9:03:04
Hi.
> >Anorgasmia
Anorgasmia very often disappears after 2-3 months with Nardil. Remain optimistic. In the meantime, keep "trying". It might help retrain that part of the CNS that much faster.
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2005, at 10:27:16
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls, posted by SLS on March 10, 2005, at 9:12:41
>AnorgasmiaLol, I would happily accept anorgasmia for the rest of my life if I could be cured of my problems!
Ed.
Posted by Tepiaca on March 11, 2005, at 0:02:58
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » Tepiaca, posted by ed_uk on March 10, 2005, at 9:03:04
> >Anorgasmia
>
> Oh well, it's not that much of a big deal compared with social phobia!
>
Of course Ed =). I prefer anorgasmia than SP. Anyway I know every human being is constantly looking for something better in his lives. Once you have controled your Social Phobia, then one starts to getting worried about the others things , like Anorgasmia or weigth gain. It is an endless chain.
The fact that people start thinking about Sexual Side effects instead of their desease represents a good sign in their improvement.Bad english sorry ed , =(
Greetings
Posted by Tepiaca on March 11, 2005, at 0:15:53
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls, posted by SLS on March 10, 2005, at 9:12:41
> Hi.
>
> > >Anorgasmia
>
> Anorgasmia very often disappears after 2-3 months with Nardil. Remain optimistic. In the meantime, keep "trying". It might help retrain that part of the CNS that much faster.
>
>
Rigth now I am experimented ,a low libido. Do you think that could go away too?
Posted by SLS on March 11, 2005, at 6:26:18
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » SLS, posted by Tepiaca on March 11, 2005, at 0:15:53
> > Hi.
> >
> > > >Anorgasmia
> >
> > Anorgasmia very often disappears after 2-3 months with Nardil. Remain optimistic. In the meantime, keep "trying". It might help retrain that part of the CNS that much faster.
> >
> >
> Rigth now I am experimented ,a low libido. Do you think that could go away too?I guess it's possible that Nardil has had some negative impact on your libido, but it is unlikely that it is as pronounced as with the SRIs. If you begin to respond to it, you might find that your libido will recover. I understand that you are treating SP only? Nardil, when it improved my depression, also improved my libido, but it was the depression that left me without one in the first place.
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk on March 11, 2005, at 8:40:13
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » ed_uk, posted by Tepiaca on March 11, 2005, at 0:02:58
Hello Tep!
>The fact that people start thinking about Sexual Side effects instead of their desease represents a good sign in their improvement.
I agree :-)
>Bad english sorry ed
No need to apologise. Anyway, your English is good.
Greetings!
Ed.
Posted by Tepiaca on March 12, 2005, at 18:33:28
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » Tepiaca, posted by SLS on March 11, 2005, at 6:26:18
> I guess it's possible that Nardil has had some negative impact on your libido, but it is unlikely that it is as pronounced as with the SRIs.Yes Scott , nothing like any SSRIS , they are the worst of all
If you begin to respond to it, you might find that your libido will recover. I understand that you are treating SP only?
>>>>>>>SP , depression.... One doctor told me I had an schizoaffective disorder, type depressive
Nardil, when it improved my depression, also improved my libido, but it was the depression that left me without one in the first place.
>
>I remember how great was my libido when I was on Nardil + Depakote, dont know why , I dont know too much abouth chemical stuff.
Thank you Scott
Posted by Tepiaca on March 12, 2005, at 18:43:16
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » Tepiaca, posted by ed_uk on March 11, 2005, at 8:40:13
> Hello Tep!
>
> >The fact that people start thinking about Sexual Side effects instead of their desease represents a good sign in their improvement.
>
> I agree :-)
>
> >Bad english sorry ed
>
> No need to apologise. Anyway, your English is good.
>
> Greetings!
> Ed.
>
>Ed , do you know the city of Brigthon??? , Maybe Í am going to move there in the next months. Any doctor that prescribes MAOI???
Posted by Joe1 on March 13, 2005, at 9:28:47
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » SLS, posted by Tepiaca on March 12, 2005, at 18:33:28
Maybe , the new Nardil isn't working for you.
taking the max or more may not be the solution.
Check out www.stratguitar.com/nardil.html
Posted by ed_uk on March 13, 2005, at 10:19:40
In reply to Re: Increasing to 90mg Nardil.How to do it? Advice pls » ed_uk, posted by Tepiaca on March 12, 2005, at 18:43:16
Hi Tep!
>Ed , do you know the city of Brigthon??? , Maybe Í am going to move there in the next months. Any doctor that prescribes MAOI???
That's cool, why are you coming to live in the UK? What will you do here?
I've never been to Brighton, I don't know any doctors round there unfortunately. You should be able to find someone to prescribe Nardil though, I don't think it will be too difficult since you're already taking it. You will have to resist pressure to be transfered to an SSRI though!
Ed.
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