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Posted by JayDee on January 24, 2005, at 16:55:45
How do I stop it. I have HOURS of homework to do here, and I cannot think. Opiates do not help. Alcohol is not helping. and the prozac seems useless(obviously). confronging one of my ruminations certantly did no help.
I want to die.
Posted by Jen2 on January 24, 2005, at 17:05:43
In reply to Rumination, posted by JayDee on January 24, 2005, at 16:55:45
JayDee,
Oh my God I can relate. Are you having an anxiety attack? What's going on?
If you are, take a break. Stop what you're doing now. Don't do any more work for a while. Just stop. It's OK to stop working. I know it's hard to understand that (oh God, I know), but just stop.
Lie down and get your head supported and do a relaxation exercise - start at your feet - clench your feet muscles, and then relax them - tell them to relax - and when they start feeling relaxed, move up to your ankles - clench them, then tell them to relax, and when they start feeling relaxed, move to your calves. And so on up your body. Pay attention to how your body is feeling. Don't fall asleep, just try to relax your body all the way up to your head.
This should take at least 20 minutes. It's totally worth it. It helps me a lot to do this. It often will clear my head and then I can start to think again.
If you're feeling so crappy that you can't work, then don't work, and take some time off school. It took me a really long time and lots and lots and lots of anxiety and depression to realize this.
I don't know if this will help, but I hope so.
Jen
> How do I stop it. I have HOURS of homework to do here, and I cannot think. Opiates do not help. Alcohol is not helping. and the prozac seems useless(obviously). confronging one of my ruminations certantly did no help.
>
> I want to die.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2005, at 18:50:48
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by Jen2 on January 24, 2005, at 17:05:43
I have no idea how to stop it. If you find out then please let me know...
Posted by JayDee on January 24, 2005, at 19:51:26
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by Jen2 on January 24, 2005, at 17:05:43
Thank you Jen.
Posted by Jen2 on January 24, 2005, at 20:11:45
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by JayDee on January 24, 2005, at 19:51:26
You're welcome JayDee. I hope you're feeling a little better.
Jen
Posted by shoebox on January 25, 2005, at 7:31:22
In reply to Rumination, posted by JayDee on January 24, 2005, at 16:55:45
Yikes! Why are you combining "opiates" and--Jeez!--ALCOHOL with Prozac?? You might as well just dump the Prozac in the toilet.
Listen, I realize that this is not going to help in the short term, but it sounds like you need to be on an ADD-type drug. Provigil is excellent for focusing and preventing rumination/obsessive thoughts, and it is compatible with Prozac. If you haven't tried it, or Concerta et al, you should. It is an amazing drug, and it's not an amphetamine.
Sorry to yell at you when you're feeling miserable, but come on, you gotta ditch the alcohol if you're trying to treat depression.
Posted by JayDee on January 25, 2005, at 19:34:29
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by shoebox on January 25, 2005, at 7:31:22
I have Adderall im taking for ADHD already.
Im used to being yelled at, dont worry about it. I post here for advice/critizism anyways.Hey... that was the first time I drank in 3 months!!! boy did I feel like crap later.
as far as opiates+alcohol... well I kinda stopped caring ;-)BTW, today was one of the best days of my life.(not even over yet)
Posted by shoebox on January 25, 2005, at 20:09:04
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by JayDee on January 25, 2005, at 19:34:29
> BTW, today was one of the best days of my life.(not even over yet)
Uh oh! You're not bipolar, are you?? That's the sort of thing I say when I'm hypomanic.
The fact that you are already on Adderall, and you take Prozac, AND you are ruminating so much, AND you are suddenly having the best day of your life after yesterday being miserable... Any chance you're Bipolar?
In any case, maybe you should switch ADD drugs. I always thought Adderall was pretty useless myself.
Here's a funny little item: accoding to BBC News, some scientist determined that, in the Northern Hemisphere at least, January 24th is the "most depressing" day of the year. Maybe that was why you had such a lousy day! ;-)
Posted by JayDee on January 26, 2005, at 3:32:03
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by shoebox on January 25, 2005, at 20:09:04
Shoebox,
Do you take ADD medication? what works for you?
the adderall is better then nothing... but I need to be more careful with it.No.. not bipolar, mabye borderline. ;-)
today was a good day because of a couple things that happened, something went very well for me.
ps, i made a post about the Jan 24 thing, hah!
Posted by shoebox on January 26, 2005, at 6:44:13
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by JayDee on January 26, 2005, at 3:32:03
Hi, JayDee,
Glad you're feeling better. :-)
I'm not allowed to take anything for my ADD at the moment, since my husband and I are trying for a baby, but I liked Concerta, and Provigil I especially liked, because it didn't make me so jittery--Concerta made my heart race, even though it's not an amphetamine.
To be honest, the best was Ritalin, but it wears off so easily and you end up taking more and more of it. Not good. I would ask your pdoc about Provigil first, then Concerta.
Are you *sure* you're not bipolar? Very similar to borderline!
> Shoebox,
>
> Do you take ADD medication? what works for you?
> the adderall is better then nothing... but I need to be more careful with it.
>
> No.. not bipolar, mabye borderline. ;-)
> today was a good day because of a couple things that happened, something went very well for me.
>
>
> ps, i made a post about the Jan 24 thing, hah!
Posted by JayDee on January 26, 2005, at 19:39:34
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by shoebox on January 26, 2005, at 6:44:13
I don't get Hypomanic/manic, hyperactive... yes ;)
dysphoria somtimes too
Posted by shoebox on January 26, 2005, at 20:02:09
In reply to Re: Rumination, posted by JayDee on January 26, 2005, at 19:39:34
> I don't get Hypomanic/manic, hyperactive... yes ;)
>
> dysphoria somtimes too
Hmmmmm...how would you characterize "hyperactive"? (Not trying to bust your chops here--just curious, since it took my pdoc 12 years to figure out I was bipolar instead of unipolar)
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