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Posted by mmcconathy on January 11, 2005, at 19:06:00
I heard its for Narcolepsy, but at the same time its a sedative.
Is it prescribed for anxiety, or only on special cercumstances.
If so, then ill just consider asking about something else.
Do you have any info?
Posted by mmcconathy on January 11, 2005, at 19:18:19
In reply to What is Xyrem?, posted by mmcconathy on January 11, 2005, at 19:06:00
from what i've read, its more addicting than Marijuna.
Im just going to stay with Ativan
Good Day
Posted by zmg on January 11, 2005, at 19:58:07
In reply to Re: forget it, abuse potential is too high, posted by mmcconathy on January 11, 2005, at 19:18:19
Technically Marijuana is not addictive (but for me was certainly a poor choice of drug). Xyrem appears to be gamma hydroxybutyrate (GHB).
In my reading GHB has proven to be habit forming (and dangerous to mix with alcohol).
I've never used it.
Posted by zmg on January 11, 2005, at 20:02:25
In reply to Re: forget it, abuse potential is too high, posted by zmg on January 11, 2005, at 19:58:07
And it appears to be a treatment for Fibromyalgia (and narcolepsy?):
Posted by Willyee on January 11, 2005, at 22:48:07
In reply to Re: forget it, abuse potential is too high, posted by zmg on January 11, 2005, at 20:02:25
> And it appears to be a treatment for Fibromyalgia (and narcolepsy?):
Exactly,it`s a strong contradiction to promote a substance as a posion to society,arrest people,only to fight,which was a long fight to have it allowed as a script med which it is.Although far from a safe substance,it is still a natural substance,and normally to ban that there has to be a process taken.
The only way to avoid this process and have it banned automaticaly is to present it as a immediate danger to the public,and and a mass media campaign on the substances inhibitory effects being used for "DATE RAPE" was put into place,and the public with little knowledge of it,what it is,etc jumped on the train,when in reality alcholol is the foundation of date rape drugs,and just about anything put it in makes a common drink a mickey,crushed benzos,nyquil whatever have you.Although ghb was used in some cases of date rape,it was not at the intensity of the medias campaign,in fact the average person like an Maoi will give you a blank stare when u mention GHB,only until u say the date rape drug will u see them say oh yeah,right.
GHB is not much different than any of your nueroleptic mood stablizers such as nuerontin,gabatril,tegatrol,benzos etc
It`s main method of action is the temporaly surpession of dopamine,and increase of gaba.Upon wearing off the dopamine is released,which makes it a ideal for narcolpetics,who benifit from the deep sleep of the dopamine depression,and the surge release to keep them awake during the day.
Like benzos it can be extremly therputic,and like a benzo can be very dangerous.What makes it exceptionaly dangerous is the care needed in taking it,it has a SHARP response curve,where someone can dose 2-3 times with no results,only to have the 4th one,even if its a matter of milligrams higher present a dramatic effect,it takes knowledge od the drug to use it saftly,but at responsable doses it can provide excellent relief of anxiety,along with ehnaced sociablitity.
Using it as a add-on moodstablizer or anxiety agent with med is the best and safest way to use it.In this case it is the same as adding something such as neurontin to a med.
Using it alone has a higher chance of making one high,as well as wanting to use more of it.The substance has a definitve history here and in other countrys,it has had numerous trade names for scripts,including one called Alcover which was prescribed to asist alochol withdrawal.
Last it also has very very very intense sexual benifits,it lowers inhibitions,to where one if PYHSICALY stimulated,and also feels more relaxed and comfortable with themselves,which for many is a problem.
Regardless of ones opinion on it,it is now very very much illegal in any country.
Note: GHB was especialy dangerous when used by a person with addictive personality,in this case they would best have choosen a different med.There is an enormous amount of information on it,unfortunaly a lot of it is misinformation.I have used it in moderation and found it no different then using a benzo,only more pleaseant.
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> http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct/gui/show/NCT00087555/
Posted by zmg on January 11, 2005, at 22:58:30
In reply to Re: forget it, abuse potential is too high, posted by Willyee on January 11, 2005, at 22:48:07
Good info Willyee. Its always a fine line between abuse and medication. Between dose escalation and the risk (along with abuse) of coma I can see why this was taken off the market. But responsible people who could have benefited from it certainly do lose.
A consenting adult temporarily lifting their mood and some inhibitions is fine, but there's always someone less in control and thats why this drug got such a bad wrap.
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