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Posted by vjw on April 14, 2004, at 22:15:08
I will be moving to England next year from the states to be with my significant other. I was wondering what AD's are available there?? Especially Wellbutrin and Zoloft??
Posted by artist on April 15, 2004, at 8:27:25
In reply to Question for the UK residents..., posted by vjw on April 14, 2004, at 22:15:08
i would say that most drugs would be available, although they may have different brand names. although venlaflaxine still is called effexor. you would have to register with a G.P (general practitioner) your G.P is your first port of call, they would discuss your sympotms and perhaps perscribe or offer counselling etc, or refer you. i should warn you though that the N.H.S is in real trouble,we have a shortage of G.Ps, pychiatric specailists, and resources. I should also warn you that G.Ps have wildly different attitudes to prescribing, some won't even consider it, and will want you to do therapy, and some will give you whatever to 'fix' you and get you out of the door. The average time you have with a G.P is between 5 and 15 mins. It all depends on where you live, and what hospitals or research centers are close. I don't mean to be so pessimisstic, i just wanted to give you an idea of how it works. I have had some really good experiences, i just wish someone had offered me effexor sooner,and treated my problems as medical and solveable.
Posted by crazychickuk on April 15, 2004, at 9:15:16
In reply to Re: Question for the UK residents..., posted by artist on April 15, 2004, at 8:27:25
Health service is crap !!!!! nhs is crap !!!!!
Zoloft is lustral, effexor is effexor remeron is zispin, paxil is seroxat, prozac is prozac.. what ever neds u r on take them with you to your gp (doctor) ..
Best of luck..
Regards
Donna
Posted by vjw on April 15, 2004, at 14:07:50
In reply to Re: Question for the UK residents...WARNING, posted by crazychickuk on April 15, 2004, at 9:15:16
Thanks artist and crazychick. My s.o. has told me about the NHS (although he doesn't think it's that bad-I was shocked that they don't believe in routine physicals or preventative medicine and they don't check blood pressure unless you ask-I made him go have it checked, which required a separate appointment!!! Talk about inefficient!!!)
To be honest, that's the only thing I'm worried about as far as moving over there. So Zoloft is available, do you know about Wellbutrin??
Posted by jms600 on April 15, 2004, at 16:37:35
In reply to Re: Question for the UK residents...WARNING, posted by vjw on April 15, 2004, at 14:07:50
Hello,
I live in the UK and would be very interested to hear if Wellbutrin is available, as I want to try it. If the worst comes to the worst and its not available you can always buy them over the internet from abroad (such as the United States). I don't think you can buy prescription drugs on British websites without a valid prescription, but there is no law stopping you importing them in from another country.
One advantage with the NHS is that regardless of the cost of drugs you are prescribed by your doctor, all you pay is a prescrition charge of £6.20. (about $12). Thats really pretty good if the drugs you are on cost £40 or £50+ and all you have to pay is £6.20! If you are unempolyed and/or on state benefits you don't even have to pay that - they are totally free.
Take care!
Posted by TheOutsider on April 15, 2004, at 17:40:52
In reply to Re: Question for the UK residents...WARNING, posted by jms600 on April 15, 2004, at 16:37:35
In answer to your question welbutrian is definetly available in the UK.
The funny thing is its not indicated for depression, only for smoking sessasion?!
If you found a decent Pdoc they would prescribe it for you I think.BUT I must warn you that mental health care in this country is atrocious. I have had several experiences of both GPs and Specialists and they have all been terrible. What CrazyChick says is all true, it can take months to see a specialist, and when you do they can be both horrible and incompitent!
Sorry I just had a bad experience recently.
But if you look at other UK posts they will usually confirm what I have said.Going privately is one probably the best solution, as well as getting back up notes from your US doctors.
While we are on the subject does anyone know of any decent UK doctors?
Posted by slinky on April 15, 2004, at 19:33:18
In reply to Re: Question for the UK residents...WARNING, posted by jms600 on April 15, 2004, at 16:37:35
I don't think you can buy prescription drugs on British websites without a valid prescription, but there is no law stopping you importing them in from another country.
I have bought zyban ( wellbutron ) without prescription from a uk site-imported..The site now sells generic wellbutron-cheaper than zyban.
If you get a listening pdoc - youll probably get a private prescription for zyban but it will probably cost the same as on internet site.
Posted by vjw on April 15, 2004, at 20:28:19
In reply to Re: Question for the UK residents...WARNING, posted by slinky on April 15, 2004, at 19:33:18
> I don't think you can buy prescription drugs on British websites without a valid prescription, but there is no law stopping you importing them in from another country.
>
> I have bought zyban ( wellbutron ) without prescription from a uk site-imported..The site now sells generic wellbutron-cheaper than zyban.
> If you get a listening pdoc - youll probably get a private prescription for zyban but it will probably cost the same as on internet site.
>
What does "private prescription" mean?? I thought it was around $12 for each Rx(as posted previously and I had been told by my UK friends)
Posted by Tepiaca on April 16, 2004, at 0:21:25
In reply to Re: Question for the UK residents...WARNING, posted by vjw on April 15, 2004, at 20:28:19
Posted by cybercafe on April 16, 2004, at 5:48:22
In reply to UK Warning Warning!!!, posted by TheOutsider on April 15, 2004, at 17:40:52
i would really love to know
Posted by artist on April 16, 2004, at 8:28:36
In reply to Is Abilify available in UK yet?, posted by cybercafe on April 16, 2004, at 5:48:22
i don't think that going private is the answer though, my sister is a doctor and says that the NHS still has a better proportion of talented doctors, who seem to be more dedicated and knoledgeable because of thier situation.im very suspect of private healthcare,there have been quite a few fuck ups.and seems to be less accountability.
Posted by crazychickuk on April 16, 2004, at 9:11:07
In reply to Re: going private, posted by artist on April 16, 2004, at 8:28:36
wellburtan is called buprifan something like that all uk meds are known by their actual name like remeron is mirtazipan prozac is fluanx wat eva etc etc..
I have had bad experiences with the nhs i waited 2 yrs to see a physc then she refered me to anxiety management then i had wait another yr to see her which i did and now i wont be seeing her again f*** that... i am going to out tommorrow night to my sisters wedding and if i so much as feel panicky i will storm into my docs office on monday and spill out.. cus i have had enough.. not getting the help i deserve this is f***** crap !! AND I HOPE A UK DOC IS READING THIS blarrrrr to you..
Ok now thats off my chest sorry if i affended anyone but if i could move to america i would..
ALso i AM goign to go private when i go see my doc next week i will ask well i wont ask i will tell him straight.. i had severe suicidal thoughts last night, i nearly did it.. i nearly took my life BUT what stopped me? the image in my head of all my freinds and family who have died was on the boat and it drifted away from me that was a sign to me not to take my life they arnt ready for me..
Anyways good luck to you when u come over here..
Regards
Donna
Posted by slinky on April 16, 2004, at 10:36:45
In reply to Re: Question for the UK residents...WARNING, posted by vjw on April 15, 2004, at 20:28:19
>
> What does "private prescription" mean?? I thought it was around $12 for each Rx(as posted previously and I had been told by my UK friends)NHS.. all prescriptions on nhs cost about £6 ( what I remember) that's if you are working but free if you don't work .
Going private means you will probably see the same pdoc but quicker and instead of paying the £6 you pay what the meds cost from manufacturer, someone told me years ago that he paid about £60 for about 30 pill on a private script.
Posted by TheOutsider on April 17, 2004, at 6:13:20
In reply to Re: going private, posted by artist on April 16, 2004, at 8:28:36
> i don't think that going private is the answer though, my sister is a doctor and says that the NHS still has a better proportion of talented doctors, who seem to be more dedicated and knoledgeable because of thier situation.im very suspect of private healthcare,there have been quite a few fuck ups.and seems to be less accountability.
I don't mean to be rude to you or your sister, but I think that there is quite a lot hostility towards private practitioners from NHS doctors.
Moreover this hostility is often more based on prejudice than reality.Its just that the best doctor I ever saw was private, far kinder and more helpful than any NHS docs!
I had previesly been warned that all private doctors were "out for themselves" by my GP.
I imagine that quite a few "fuck ups" take place on the NHS to!
There are good docs working NHS and private, you just have to find them!
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 17, 2004, at 10:59:05
In reply to Re: going private, artist has one point of view, posted by TheOutsider on April 17, 2004, at 6:13:20
> I imagine that quite a few "f[*]ck ups" take place on the NHS to!
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Posted by Sad Panda on April 18, 2004, at 15:19:52
In reply to Re: WARNING WARNING, posted by crazychickuk on April 16, 2004, at 9:11:07
> wellburtan is called buprifan something like that all uk meds are known by their actual name like remeron is mirtazipan prozac is fluanx wat eva etc etc..
>
> I have had bad experiences with the nhs i waited 2 yrs to see a physc then she refered me to anxiety management then i had wait another yr to see her which i did and now i wont be seeing her again f*** that... i am going to out tommorrow night to my sisters wedding and if i so much as feel panicky i will storm into my docs office on monday and spill out.. cus i have had enough.. not getting the help i deserve this is f***** crap !! AND I HOPE A UK DOC IS READING THIS blarrrrr to you..
>
> Ok now thats off my chest sorry if i affended anyone but if i could move to america i would..
>
> ALso i AM goign to go private when i go see my doc next week i will ask well i wont ask i will tell him straight.. i had severe suicidal thoughts last night, i nearly did it.. i nearly took my life BUT what stopped me? the image in my head of all my freinds and family who have died was on the boat and it drifted away from me that was a sign to me not to take my life they arnt ready for me..
>
> Anyways good luck to you when u come over here..
> Regards
> DonnaHi Donna,
Hang in there! I got to see a pdoc for the first time last week. Nothing too exciting to say, but she agrees with me that I could be suffering from some hypothyroid problem & recomended I get referals to an edocrinologist & a dietician. With a bit of luck I will get to add some Thyroxine to my growing collection of tablets & capsules & hopefull I will get the energy boost I need.
Cheers,
Panda.
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