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Posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 23:27:06
I know this has probably been addressed somewhere on the archives but I really am curious as to if this drug is making it *impossible* to become well.
12-14 years off and on ---mostly on , but I tried going off of it last summer and never before felt like doing myself in as I did when the K was absent. I know that withdrawl can def . make you much more depressed. Some may dismiss this idea of being a major contributor of depression, but I just don't know -- I don't buy all of Peter Breggers' ideas of -"maybe its' your medication" but some of his ideas are somewhat sound. ALSO I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THIS THREAD GET MOVED TO PSYCHOLOGY-BABBLE OR SOCIAL BABBLE CUZ I MENTIONED THE 'ANTI-CHRIST' OF PSYCHIATRYS' NAME - AND NO I AM NOT A SCIENTOLOGIST I really want the low down on K. I have panic and anxiety brain fog, and DP/DR - and social phobia even while on the drug ! fwiw I am BP II/ocd etc. But is there an alt. to K and if so how would you go about making the transition to another med without losing your mind or your life!! I am quite serious-I know it is good for a lot of people for lots of different indications, but when is continued therapy too much? Afterall there is no "daily requirement for Klonopin" like there is for essential vitamins/minerals and the like", I know I am psychologically and physically addicted to it - but I just can't beleive that there aren't better answers!! I know that I have posed a lot of multi-faceted questions but I think there are also answers!! All input is appreciated and welcomed.
Thanks
Clint
Posted by NotAddicted on April 8, 2004, at 7:48:57
In reply to Klonopin longterm? keeping me from getting well?, posted by snapper on April 7, 2004, at 23:27:06
The question really becomes: Do you think the Klonopin is doing you more harm than good? And: How do you define "getting well"? These are retorical questions to ask yourself... not ones I expect you to provide an answer to.
Klonopin is my only drug and my benefits outweigh the risks. This isn't the case for many. If you consider 3 years "long term", then, I am a long termer. So, yes, I do have a daily requirement for Klonopin. The reason for me is, I have a faulty "flight or flight" system and I have found something that corrects that.
Also, I think these meds are treatments and not "cures". Many have gotten fed up with using meds and tried to substitute (I'm talking alternate stuff) or do total med washouts. Some with success, some aren't successful. Some are successful moving to another class of meds that they are more satisfied with.
You and your doc are the ones to decide.
Posted by snapper on April 8, 2004, at 17:26:04
In reply to Re: Klonopin longterm? keeping me from getting well?, posted by NotAddicted on April 8, 2004, at 7:48:57
Notaddicted, how did you determine you had a "faulty fight or flight system", and also how would you delineate a faulty f/f system from severe anxiety and depression. thanks for your reply
snapper
Posted by NotAddicted on April 8, 2004, at 17:58:49
In reply to Re: Klonopin longterm? keeping me from getting well?, posted by snapper on April 8, 2004, at 17:26:04
I, with my doc, determined my diagnosis the way I'm aware any of us are diagnosed with a mental health disorder - by excluding those conditions that could cause the symptoms I was experiencing. As far as I'm aware, these disorders are diagnosed via exclusion and assessment of symptoms. Plus, I had a strong genetic setup.
I make no differences between anxiety or panic and my "faulty" system. The "fear" area of my brain is the problem. I release too many "spin up" chemicals. Any medication that "increases" the available serotonin and norepi, makes my symptoms worsen. I have an anxiety disorder, which I believe is underrated as a stand alone diagnosis and is always thought to be comorbid with other disorders.
The fact of the way I see my disorder and that a benzo works for me and keeps me well is MY truth. I do not ask anyone else to believe it. If you think Klonopin is keeping you from true wellness, that's your truth that you are certainly entitled to.
Posted by snapper on April 8, 2004, at 20:27:51
In reply to Re: Klonopin longterm? keeping me from getting well?, posted by NotAddicted on April 8, 2004, at 17:58:49
Posted by NotAddicted on April 8, 2004, at 22:05:33
In reply to Re:thanks for the clarification-best wishes to you (nm), posted by snapper on April 8, 2004, at 20:27:51
You're welcome. I wish you the best, too and hope you work everything out to a good workable situation for you...that's what we all deserve.
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