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Posted by Daniel J. on March 13, 2004, at 10:09:26
Over the years I have myself been afflicted with a terrible temper. I don't really lose control that often, maybe only 2 or 3 times a year, but when I do, the anger seems to feed off itself, increasing in intensity and sometime causes me to throw things, slam doors and feel in a terribly destructive mood. It sometimes continues for hours or more rarely days. Sometimes I even feel as if I want to stay angry because it is a kind o high. Afterwards my psychological state stabilizes and I become aware that I don't want it to happen again.
In addition I feel I have a lot of road rage which doesn't help my driving at all.
My son has schizophrenia and is stabilized and under the treatment of a psychiatrist who I trust.
What should I do? See him for therapy? Has anyone had luck with medications for controlling anger?
Posted by Sebastian on March 13, 2004, at 11:18:29
In reply to Anger a high?, posted by Daniel J. on March 13, 2004, at 10:09:26
What type of treatment worked for your son? I've had bits of anger, medication worked for me. Usualy I would take more zyprexa. I think anger is the result of stress.
Posted by HappyGirl on March 13, 2004, at 11:32:55
In reply to Anger a high?, posted by Daniel J. on March 13, 2004, at 10:09:26
Hi:
One of my siblings had similar episodes as yours, ...'anger' problems that was not intense, but still quite bothersome to all of us, especially with my MOM. He insisted on not having any mental problems, then refused to see any psychiatrist. But, when he started to look for a better job, this rageous along with some depressive moods got on his own nerves. Then, he did seek professional opinion from my pdoc.On the first day on his visit, however, he was advised to see a counselor who understood his problems well. Afterwards, he did see the pdoc. in the hopes that he was able to get prescription, but he dx'ed with Anxiety, milder form, without any prescription.
Afterwards, he has been doing well without any psycho.med.
In the end, he got a *good* help from the counselling over the course of two-three months' period.
In my guess, not only your 'original' moods but also all other related problems brought on by your son's shizo. might have 'BIG' impact on your anger problem.
In my suggestion, try to seek for counselling, even just few would be quite helpful.
H.G.
Posted by EscherDementian on March 15, 2004, at 2:03:56
In reply to Anger a high?, posted by Daniel J. on March 13, 2004, at 10:09:26
The right SSRI was a godsend and amazing assistance for temper and 'anger management' for two of my best friends and then, also my mate. (In their cases, all Celexa)
They all spoke of finally, actually, being able to recognize happiness, 'abundance', light-heartedness, contentment and _feel_ it.
I observed their acquiring a (first time) sense of humour about humanity, their children, (or me!) and themselves.My own experience of being on a Selective Seratonin Reuptake Inhibiter was that i had a moment to _respond_, rather than _react_ to situations or other's communications. i think my description to my pdoc when i first tried Zoloft (years ago) was that my "emotional intensity does't go from 0-->70 in a nano-second on a greased rollercoaster; brakes-not-included".
Mine wasn't anger, however equally diminishing. i used to *embarass* myself crying at beautiful things, like something at the Ballet, or Hallmark Card commercials. Or at least twice a week in the Montessori school where i taught. (yes, it WAS awful for me. It "had a life of it's own").On another note; the title of your post reminded me of something i learned in a study & documentry and also later reminded of by a friend-psychiatrist, that there are people whose vitals actually get better when they have accomplished provoking anger or similar loss of control; their bloodpressure & heartrate lowers, their "feelgood chemestry" increases, this person will calm and feel 'high'... My memory was that this was in a context of provoking anger in OTHERS, not themselves. It was a phenom found in adults, not in children.
In My Not-always-so Humble Opinion, therapists can be surprisingly compassionate and superior resources for directing our way in matters like this. i'd venture an ask for a referral from your son's, if it were me, and what a loving thing for you to have thought of, too. IMNHO
Hope this helps,
Escher
Posted by DanielJ on March 15, 2004, at 7:06:27
In reply to Re: Anger a high? » Daniel J., posted by EscherDementian on March 15, 2004, at 2:03:56
I thank everyone for your support and advice. I intend to see my son's Psy Dr. and follow his recommendations.
The one reply that the phenomenon seems to take on a life of it's own was especially interesting. I liken it to demon taking posession and proceeding to destroy one's life. Sometimes I feel like an "Exorcist" would help. When the fits of anger are over I often don't know what caused them. I think the anger itself can make one feel powerful and terribly threatening and in addition temporarily feed ones ego to the point of it becoming dangerous. I really needed someone to understand how I feel. That in itself helps me to realize that I am not alone in this situation.Thanks Again Dan J.
Posted by zor on March 15, 2004, at 10:34:34
In reply to Anger a high?, posted by Daniel J. on March 13, 2004, at 10:09:26
Isnt this somewhat normal (human) to vent? Provided it doesnt get out of hand. Meaning you are of no harm to yourself or others?
You mentioned road rage and I have that too. I think it is our anxiety and inward anger at the world and society that makes us like that. We get so fed up and just sorta temporarily 'break' I can see how it can feel good. Almost like sneezing or dare I say orgasm! I think we all know the feeling. It feels taboo but it is completely human.
If it gets out of hand or others comment on your behavior maybe the advice of a psychiatrist or mental health worker would help. Treating the anxiety (or other issue)I bet would really be getting to the cause.
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