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Posted by John1022 on October 4, 2003, at 21:32:41
I know most AD's don't list side effects of affecting ears, but they sure are with me. I have tried Effexor, Evavil, St. John's Wort and Wellbutrin and they all have reaked havok on my ears.
I already have pre-existing tinnitus that is not very loud. All these AD's make the tinnitus much louder. Even worse than that, they make my ears feel like they are infected, cause hypersensitivity to where I can hear computers and tv's buzzing loudly, my nose run, ears pop and make my jaw crack.
I talked to a pharmacist today at work who said they are most likely affecting a blood vessel of some sorts and that most will probably have this same effect.
Some I am wondering if anyone else has experience this or has heard of something that does not effect the ears?
She said that I should be a little concerned with damaging my ears while on these AD's. All 3 of the AD's are also multiplying anxiety (which I normally don't really have) at incredibly rates when I am on them and make me feel almost none functionally depressive, basically completely out of it and I have no lack of concentration.
When I stop them, these symptoms go away after about 10 days and I am almost back to normal but not quite. It honestly feels like these AD's deplete my seretonin.
5HTP has been the only thing that I have taken that makes me feel better and triggers my sleep, so I definitely think my feelings are seretonin related. But I am concerned about taking 5HTP for too long because of unknown toxins (peak X) and anything else that might cause serious side effects.
I am almost unwilling to try any other AD's because I feel like they have similar chemical profiles that are all distiburing my ear function in serious ways as well as CAUSING much worse depression and severe anxiety.
Any thought on any of my comments or symptons is very much appreciated. Thanks!
Posted by EscherDementian on October 4, 2003, at 23:23:04
In reply to Anti-depressant that doesn't effect ears? , posted by John1022 on October 4, 2003, at 21:32:41
John-
You are not alone!!! this *exact* dilhemma has been a huge quest for me to answer since my first post on psycho-babble - 9/2/03 (i think it was).
There have been a few things that we have been able to put together in figuring this thing out..
Perhaps scanning through those past posts you may find something you can use that helps~
i've had some great help from some very knowledgeable people here, through this quest. The thread continues until just a few days ago.i wish i had time right now for a better note to you, but i have to run right now, infact 5mins ago, and i'm putting on my coat and shoes as i type... But i just wanted to let you know you're not alone on this one, it IS terribly frustrating /border despair, and we've been putting things together- Join us!!?
Look back thru the archives for threads titled "Ear Ringing..." "Ear )>Screeeeing<(" , etc.
i look forward to hearing more about what's happening for you, and sharing what we've learned.
Escher
P.S. i've had uncharacteristic difficulty with intensified anxiety and depression dysfunction while taking chems /combos just like yours. A connection w/the louder ringing? "Seratonin 'depletion'"?
Posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 0:52:11
In reply to Anti-depressant that doesn't effect ears? , posted by John1022 on October 4, 2003, at 21:32:41
Hi, I do know from experience that Wellbutrin and Effexor are notorious for causing anxiety in a lot of people, but others do just fine.
I've had the ringing you talk about. I'm on Lexapro now~have been for almost 3 months, I don't get any ear ringing with it.
Maybe you're on too many meds??
I hope you feel better and good luck.
Kristen
> I know most AD's don't list side effects of affecting ears, but they sure are with me. I have tried Effexor, Evavil, St. John's Wort and Wellbutrin and they all have reaked havok on my ears.
>
> I already have pre-existing tinnitus that is not very loud. All these AD's make the tinnitus much louder. Even worse than that, they make my ears feel like they are infected, cause hypersensitivity to where I can hear computers and tv's buzzing loudly, my nose run, ears pop and make my jaw crack.
>
> I talked to a pharmacist today at work who said they are most likely affecting a blood vessel of some sorts and that most will probably have this same effect.
>
> Some I am wondering if anyone else has experience this or has heard of something that does not effect the ears?
>
> She said that I should be a little concerned with damaging my ears while on these AD's. All 3 of the AD's are also multiplying anxiety (which I normally don't really have) at incredibly rates when I am on them and make me feel almost none functionally depressive, basically completely out of it and I have no lack of concentration.
>
> When I stop them, these symptoms go away after about 10 days and I am almost back to normal but not quite. It honestly feels like these AD's deplete my seretonin.
>
> 5HTP has been the only thing that I have taken that makes me feel better and triggers my sleep, so I definitely think my feelings are seretonin related. But I am concerned about taking 5HTP for too long because of unknown toxins (peak X) and anything else that might cause serious side effects.
>
> I am almost unwilling to try any other AD's because I feel like they have similar chemical profiles that are all distiburing my ear function in serious ways as well as CAUSING much worse depression and severe anxiety.
>
> Any thought on any of my comments or symptons is very much appreciated. Thanks!
Posted by linkadge on October 5, 2003, at 6:37:05
In reply to Anti-depressant that doesn't effect ears? , posted by John1022 on October 4, 2003, at 21:32:41
Peak X is not a concern. 5htp is processed in a totally different manner than l-typrophan was. As long as you buy from a reputable brand, there is no problem.
Linkadge
Posted by John1022 on October 5, 2003, at 6:42:26
In reply to Re: Anti-depressant that doesn't effect ears? , posted by linkadge on October 5, 2003, at 6:37:05
> Peak X is not a concern. 5htp is processed in a totally different manner than l-typrophan was. As long as you buy from a reputable brand, there is no problem.
>
>
> LinkadgeThanks Linkadge. Does anyone know the names to the more specific reputable brands or any links to them?
How about the names of the companies that do more testing than others on their 5HTP?
Any help would be appreciated in locating one. Thanks
Posted by linkadge on October 6, 2003, at 10:37:48
In reply to Re: Anti-depressant that doesn't effect ears? , posted by John1022 on October 5, 2003, at 6:42:26
Here in canada, the best companies I can think of would be - in order of testing.
Now Foods
Jamieson Nat sources
Swiss HerbalsPersonally the ear ringing is problably due to the blood thinning effect of SSRI's. Do you get ear ringing while taking asprin ??
I hear 5-htp, niacin are a good combination.
There was a study using this for Major Depression, I don't know if I can find the link
Linkadge
Posted by John1022 on October 6, 2003, at 21:33:08
In reply to Re: Anti-depressant that doesn't effect ears? , posted by linkadge on October 6, 2003, at 10:37:48
Thanks Linkadge.
I am not sure if Aspirin would aggravate it as my doctor told me to stay away from it. Hadn't taken it recently before or after it started though. Advil seemed to make it worse when I took it for a headache, which I think is a blood thinner.
Is anyone aware of an anti-depressant or SSRI that won't effect my inner ear?
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