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Posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:48:06
In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy??? » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 7, 2003, at 17:37:10
> Your depressed1!? Arn't you, take wellbutrin 300 a day. Thats what you need! Nice happy wake up in the morning wellbutrin.
haha... good call
> Even if you do get to buffalo and get a month supply of Abilify, can you afford to go back every couple of months for a refill, no insurance to cover it?if abilify puts me back to work i can afford it .... we'll have to see
i just got back today actually, drove down there and got 1 month worth of samples (30 mg) which is 4 months worth of samples if i decide to take a low dose like 7.5 mg :)
> I think it is possible to feel apathy from celexa, I think its also posible to feel apathy from a reduction in zyprexa. Just today I was falling asleep on the couch and just didn't want to get up, I think I have this problem when I reduce zyprexa, sort of layzness and not wanting to go anywhere, I actualy had the same problem on abilify.noo! don't tell me you had the same problem on abilify :)
Posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:49:28
In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by stjames on September 8, 2003, at 1:38:16
> I would only call it SSRI apathy if it was constant.
> If it is just in the AM, then to me this is sedation. I am much this way every morning for 30 mins and it lifts and i am fine all day. I have had AD induced apathy and it was 24/7, as is depression.ummmmm... even whne i'm depressed it's not constant, like sometimes i'll be doing things and be happy, othertimes i'll be motionless and depressed
Posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:50:28
In reply to question for cybercafe, posted by linkadge on September 8, 2003, at 8:20:07
> You were on an MAO were you not?
> I was just wondering what your reasons for
> discontinuing were?got diagnosed with ADHD (finally!)
so discontinued parnate to take ritalin
Posted by stjames on September 8, 2003, at 19:26:04
In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:49:28
> > I would only call it SSRI apathy if it was constant.
> > If it is just in the AM, then to me this is sedation. I am much this way every morning for 30 mins and it lifts and i am fine all day. I have had AD induced apathy and it was 24/7, as is depression.
>
> ummmmm... even whne i'm depressed it's not constant, like sometimes i'll be doing things and be happy, othertimes i'll be motionless and depressedthat is called dysthymia
Posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 22:19:59
In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by stjames on September 8, 2003, at 19:26:04
> > > I would only call it SSRI apathy if it was constant.
> > > If it is just in the AM, then to me this is sedation. I am much this way every morning for 30 mins and it lifts and i am fine all day. I have had AD induced apathy and it was 24/7, as is depression.
> >
> > ummmmm... even whne i'm depressed it's not constant, like sometimes i'll be doing things and be happy, othertimes i'll be motionless and depressed
>
> that is called dysthymiahmmm.. i think it's called mood reactivity... dysthymia means "mild depression" right? you're right about that though, i'm not feeling *that* bad
Posted by Sebastian on September 9, 2003, at 12:37:27
In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:48:06
Don't pay any attention to me! Just take a low dose in the morning, like 7.5mg(1/4), take a zyprexa if needed. Don't pay any attention to posible side-effects, just take the drug, assume everything is wonderful.
Tell me how you are doing.
Sebastian
Posted by cybercafe on September 9, 2003, at 23:26:41
In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy??? » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 9, 2003, at 12:37:27
> Don't pay any attention to me! Just take a low dose in the morning, like 7.5mg(1/4), take a zyprexa if needed. Don't pay any attention to posible side-effects, just take the drug, assume everything is wonderful.
oh you think 7.5mg is a low dose? like guaranteed no side effects? ... or should i start at 3.75 mg?
> Tell me how you are doing.thanks bro, you're support means a lot to me
btw... does abilify increase libido??
Posted by Sebastian on September 10, 2003, at 12:01:36
In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by cybercafe on September 9, 2003, at 23:26:41
3.75 was nice, 7.5 was ok, but more was not good. Sorry if I was sounding like your doctor, I just didn't want you to think its bad befor you take it.
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2003, at 17:44:28
In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy??? » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 10, 2003, at 12:01:36
> 3.75 was nice, 7.5 was ok, but more was not good. Sorry if I was sounding like your doctor, I just didn't want you to think its bad befor you take it.
hey dude what are the equivalent dosages between zyprexa and abilify ?
Posted by Sebastian on September 11, 2003, at 12:24:56
In reply to Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2003, at 17:44:28
In my opinion? Max dose of Abilify is 30 mgs, Max dose of zyprexa is 25mgs. If you take 2.5mgs zyprexa you probably only need 2-5mgs abilify. Just a guess, tell be what you find best.
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 12, 2003, at 1:11:31
In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 11, 2003, at 12:24:56
> In my opinion? Max dose of Abilify is 30 mgs, Max dose of zyprexa is 25mgs. If you take 2.5mgs zyprexa you probably only need 2-5mgs abilify. Just a guess, tell be what you find best.
hmmmm.... okay, it takes what 15 days for abilify to build up in your system? maybe tonite i should try taking another 4 mg to help it buildup a bit faster
Posted by Sebastian on September 12, 2003, at 22:09:59
In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 12, 2003, at 1:11:31
Couldn't hurt? I would take it right befor you sleep, so it won't keep you up all night.
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 3:17:33
In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by Sebastian on September 12, 2003, at 22:09:59
> Couldn't hurt? I would take it right befor you sleep, so it won't keep you up all night.
>
> Sebokay.... i'm taking 7.5 mg of abilify and cut down to 1.25 mg of zyprexa a day .... no akathisia or other side effects to report ... yay!
Posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:07:51
In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 3:17:33
Have you gotten a job yet!
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 15:14:46
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:07:51
> Have you gotten a job yet!
>
> SebNo, but I am sleeping less than 12 hours a day !
Posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:47:24
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 15:14:46
Are you liking the Abilify!
Posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 3:04:02
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:47:24
> Are you liking the Abilify!
at 7.5mg it seems to be good stuff... no negative effects..... how long do i have to wait for this akathisia to kick in??
i am looking forward to MORE emotions LESS sleep MORE motivation MORE sex drive
when it happens i don't know whether to attribute it to less zyprexa or more abilify!
Posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 10:46:38
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 3:04:02
Sounds like Akathisia is not a problem for you!! Still I wouldn't try going up on dose too fast, maybe 5 or more days. So the lower zyprexa has not hurt any? Goood.
Seb
Posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 15:31:46
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 10:46:38
> Sounds like Akathisia is not a problem for you!! Still I wouldn't try going up on dose too fast, maybe 5 or more days. So the lower zyprexa has not hurt any? Goood.
hmmm... you had akathisia at 7.5mg right?
hmm... but you started at 15 mg and then decreased to 7.5 mg yeah?where you taking any zyprexa at the time?
i don't really notice any difference... except that i think i used to feel a need to sit down and do nothing before .... and i am a little more motivated to do things now
Posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 17:49:45
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 15:31:46
My first trial I was taking 15mg the whole time, with or without the zyprexa. I had tried taking the smallar doses some time later to see if there would be any benifit for me.
It sounds like the Abilify is working for you. You probably would not have any trouble with the 15.
Posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 0:39:44
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 17:49:45
> My first trial I was taking 15mg the whole time, with or without the zyprexa. I had tried taking the smallar doses some time later to see if there would be any benifit for me.
>
> It sounds like the Abilify is working for you. You probably would not have any trouble with the 15.is it at all strange that i'm not getting any insomnia at 7.5mg ?
Posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 12:37:39
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 0:39:44
Sounds strange to me, but I guess the abilify is working for you. Especialy since you have reduced zyprexa. Maybe you ought to try 0mg zyprexa?
Sebastian
Posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 12:37:39
> Sounds strange to me, but I guess the abilify is working for you. Especialy since you have reduced zyprexa. Maybe you ought to try 0mg zyprexa?
>
> Sebastiani am taking 0 mg zyprexa and 7.5mg abilify but still i want to sleep all day
i blame celexa
Posted by JaneB on September 15, 2003, at 16:49:29
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12
but still i want to sleep all day
>
> i blame celexaI took more naps for 2 years on celexa than for the whole rest of my life!
Jane
Posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 18:42:09
In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12
Maybe the Celexa should turn into Wellbutrin? Or take more Abilify? Try 15mg Abilify! That should do the trick!
Seb
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