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Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???

Posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:48:06

In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy??? » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 7, 2003, at 17:37:10

> Your depressed1!? Arn't you, take wellbutrin 300 a day. Thats what you need! Nice happy wake up in the morning wellbutrin.

haha... good call


> Even if you do get to buffalo and get a month supply of Abilify, can you afford to go back every couple of months for a refill, no insurance to cover it?

if abilify puts me back to work i can afford it .... we'll have to see

i just got back today actually, drove down there and got 1 month worth of samples (30 mg) which is 4 months worth of samples if i decide to take a low dose like 7.5 mg :)


> I think it is possible to feel apathy from celexa, I think its also posible to feel apathy from a reduction in zyprexa. Just today I was falling asleep on the couch and just didn't want to get up, I think I have this problem when I reduce zyprexa, sort of layzness and not wanting to go anywhere, I actualy had the same problem on abilify.

noo! don't tell me you had the same problem on abilify :)

 

Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???

Posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:49:28

In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by stjames on September 8, 2003, at 1:38:16

> I would only call it SSRI apathy if it was constant.
> If it is just in the AM, then to me this is sedation. I am much this way every morning for 30 mins and it lifts and i am fine all day. I have had AD induced apathy and it was 24/7, as is depression.

ummmmm... even whne i'm depressed it's not constant, like sometimes i'll be doing things and be happy, othertimes i'll be motionless and depressed

 

Re: question for cybercafe

Posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:50:28

In reply to question for cybercafe, posted by linkadge on September 8, 2003, at 8:20:07

> You were on an MAO were you not?
> I was just wondering what your reasons for
> discontinuing were?

got diagnosed with ADHD (finally!)
so discontinued parnate to take ritalin

 

Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???

Posted by stjames on September 8, 2003, at 19:26:04

In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:49:28

> > I would only call it SSRI apathy if it was constant.
> > If it is just in the AM, then to me this is sedation. I am much this way every morning for 30 mins and it lifts and i am fine all day. I have had AD induced apathy and it was 24/7, as is depression.
>
> ummmmm... even whne i'm depressed it's not constant, like sometimes i'll be doing things and be happy, othertimes i'll be motionless and depressed

that is called dysthymia

 

Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???

Posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 22:19:59

In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by stjames on September 8, 2003, at 19:26:04

> > > I would only call it SSRI apathy if it was constant.
> > > If it is just in the AM, then to me this is sedation. I am much this way every morning for 30 mins and it lifts and i am fine all day. I have had AD induced apathy and it was 24/7, as is depression.
> >
> > ummmmm... even whne i'm depressed it's not constant, like sometimes i'll be doing things and be happy, othertimes i'll be motionless and depressed
>
> that is called dysthymia

hmmm.. i think it's called mood reactivity... dysthymia means "mild depression" right? you're right about that though, i'm not feeling *that* bad

 

Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy??? » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 9, 2003, at 12:37:27

In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by cybercafe on September 8, 2003, at 18:48:06

Don't pay any attention to me! Just take a low dose in the morning, like 7.5mg(1/4), take a zyprexa if needed. Don't pay any attention to posible side-effects, just take the drug, assume everything is wonderful.

Tell me how you are doing.

Sebastian

 

Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???

Posted by cybercafe on September 9, 2003, at 23:26:41

In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy??? » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 9, 2003, at 12:37:27

> Don't pay any attention to me! Just take a low dose in the morning, like 7.5mg(1/4), take a zyprexa if needed. Don't pay any attention to posible side-effects, just take the drug, assume everything is wonderful.

oh you think 7.5mg is a low dose? like guaranteed no side effects? ... or should i start at 3.75 mg?


> Tell me how you are doing.

thanks bro, you're support means a lot to me

btw... does abilify increase libido??

 

Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy??? » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 10, 2003, at 12:01:36

In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy???, posted by cybercafe on September 9, 2003, at 23:26:41

3.75 was nice, 7.5 was ok, but more was not good. Sorry if I was sounding like your doctor, I just didn't want you to think its bad befor you take it.

Seb

 

Zyprexa vs. Abilify

Posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2003, at 17:44:28

In reply to Re: is this depression or SSRI apathy??? » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 10, 2003, at 12:01:36

> 3.75 was nice, 7.5 was ok, but more was not good. Sorry if I was sounding like your doctor, I just didn't want you to think its bad befor you take it.

hey dude what are the equivalent dosages between zyprexa and abilify ?

 

Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 11, 2003, at 12:24:56

In reply to Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 10, 2003, at 17:44:28

In my opinion? Max dose of Abilify is 30 mgs, Max dose of zyprexa is 25mgs. If you take 2.5mgs zyprexa you probably only need 2-5mgs abilify. Just a guess, tell be what you find best.

Seb

 

Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify

Posted by cybercafe on September 12, 2003, at 1:11:31

In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 11, 2003, at 12:24:56

> In my opinion? Max dose of Abilify is 30 mgs, Max dose of zyprexa is 25mgs. If you take 2.5mgs zyprexa you probably only need 2-5mgs abilify. Just a guess, tell be what you find best.

hmmmm.... okay, it takes what 15 days for abilify to build up in your system? maybe tonite i should try taking another 4 mg to help it buildup a bit faster

 

Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify

Posted by Sebastian on September 12, 2003, at 22:09:59

In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 12, 2003, at 1:11:31

Couldn't hurt? I would take it right befor you sleep, so it won't keep you up all night.

Seb

 

Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify

Posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 3:17:33

In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by Sebastian on September 12, 2003, at 22:09:59

> Couldn't hurt? I would take it right befor you sleep, so it won't keep you up all night.
>
> Seb

okay.... i'm taking 7.5 mg of abilify and cut down to 1.25 mg of zyprexa a day .... no akathisia or other side effects to report ... yay!

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:07:51

In reply to Re: Zyprexa vs. Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 3:17:33

Have you gotten a job yet!

Seb

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify

Posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 15:14:46

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:07:51

> Have you gotten a job yet!
>
> Seb

No, but I am sleeping less than 12 hours a day !

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:47:24

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 13, 2003, at 15:14:46

Are you liking the Abilify!

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify

Posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 3:04:02

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 13, 2003, at 15:47:24

> Are you liking the Abilify!

at 7.5mg it seems to be good stuff... no negative effects..... how long do i have to wait for this akathisia to kick in??

i am looking forward to MORE emotions LESS sleep MORE motivation MORE sex drive

when it happens i don't know whether to attribute it to less zyprexa or more abilify!

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 10:46:38

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 3:04:02

Sounds like Akathisia is not a problem for you!! Still I wouldn't try going up on dose too fast, maybe 5 or more days. So the lower zyprexa has not hurt any? Goood.

Seb

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify

Posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 15:31:46

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 10:46:38

> Sounds like Akathisia is not a problem for you!! Still I wouldn't try going up on dose too fast, maybe 5 or more days. So the lower zyprexa has not hurt any? Goood.

hmmm... you had akathisia at 7.5mg right?
hmm... but you started at 15 mg and then decreased to 7.5 mg yeah?

where you taking any zyprexa at the time?


i don't really notice any difference... except that i think i used to feel a need to sit down and do nothing before .... and i am a little more motivated to do things now

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 17:49:45

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 14, 2003, at 15:31:46

My first trial I was taking 15mg the whole time, with or without the zyprexa. I had tried taking the smallar doses some time later to see if there would be any benifit for me.

It sounds like the Abilify is working for you. You probably would not have any trouble with the 15.

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify

Posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 0:39:44

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 14, 2003, at 17:49:45

> My first trial I was taking 15mg the whole time, with or without the zyprexa. I had tried taking the smallar doses some time later to see if there would be any benifit for me.
>
> It sounds like the Abilify is working for you. You probably would not have any trouble with the 15.

is it at all strange that i'm not getting any insomnia at 7.5mg ?

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 12:37:39

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 0:39:44

Sounds strange to me, but I guess the abilify is working for you. Especialy since you have reduced zyprexa. Maybe you ought to try 0mg zyprexa?

Sebastian

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify

Posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe, posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 12:37:39

> Sounds strange to me, but I guess the abilify is working for you. Especialy since you have reduced zyprexa. Maybe you ought to try 0mg zyprexa?
>
> Sebastian

i am taking 0 mg zyprexa and 7.5mg abilify but still i want to sleep all day

i blame celexa

 

Re: Sleepy on Celexa » cybercafe

Posted by JaneB on September 15, 2003, at 16:49:29

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12

but still i want to sleep all day
>
> i blame celexa

I took more naps for 2 years on celexa than for the whole rest of my life!
Jane

 

Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify » cybercafe

Posted by Sebastian on September 15, 2003, at 18:42:09

In reply to Re: Cybercafe ! Abilify, posted by cybercafe on September 15, 2003, at 16:24:12

Maybe the Celexa should turn into Wellbutrin? Or take more Abilify? Try 15mg Abilify! That should do the trick!

Seb


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