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Posted by daizy on January 4, 2003, at 11:40:43
Does anyone else get this? I get lots of little dots that shoot across infront of my eyes, if im looking into the sky I can see them more clearly like little black and white dots? Or if its pitch black they are white and yellow, Like a bad reception on the tele, my eyes are never clear, even if I close them they are still there. I was on Inderal and think they started then, over 9 month ago, and they havnt gone away since even though I was only on it for 2 months maybe.
Posted by Phil on January 4, 2003, at 11:59:29
In reply to Seeing Dots......., posted by daizy on January 4, 2003, at 11:40:43
Have you seen or called an eye doc to see if they can do tests?
Good luck. If it ain't one thing...
daizydukes sounds better than daizydots.
Phil
Posted by kara lynne on January 4, 2003, at 13:41:54
In reply to Seeing Dots......., posted by daizy on January 4, 2003, at 11:40:43
Not that you shouldn't see a doctor, but I've seen them ever since I can remember. I even remember having a discussion about it with a friend in college who saw them too. Now I get 'floaters' which are different, but I still see the dots. I think it's normal, something about the construct of the eye and how vision works, but it may be amplified for some reason right now for you (meds definitely can affect vision). I know someone who is doing research on the Bates method of vision improvement and she explained some of this phenomena to me recently (sort of), but I could never repeat it correctly. It is weird though-- I get all sorts of interesting designs when I rub my eyes!
Posted by IsoM on January 4, 2003, at 17:58:54
In reply to Seeing Dots......., posted by daizy on January 4, 2003, at 11:40:43
These sort of light displays, from moving bright dots to generalized blurry random patterns of light, are called phosphenes. They're different from floaters which is cell debris slowly moving about the soft gel of the eye.
Phosphenes are perfectly normal & everybody has them. Some of us are just more acutely aware of ourselves than others. It's a good thing that most of us don't notice them much as it can be very distracting otherwise. SOmetimes, they'll seem more noticable than other times. For me, headaches, absently staring at the sky while thinking of something else, or being tired & laying in bed in a dark room staring upwards before falling asleep increase my notice of them.
Phosphenes that look like bright dots swarming in your vision when looking up at the bright sky is thought (it's not certain though) to be a sign of good immunity. I forget the place I read that, but it was in a science journal. It may now be discounted - I don't know.
The type you get when rubbing your eyes are called pressure phosphenes. Flicker phosphenes are said to originate within the cortex as neural firings. Phosphenes can come from staring at a flickering field or a solid bright field, electrical stimulation of the eye, migraine headaches, direct electrical or magnetic stimulation of the cortex, by staring at your nose crossing eyes for a time, & by blows to your head.
If anyone's really curious to know more, check out this piece on phosphenes:
http://www.oubliette.zetnet.co.uk/Three.html
Posted by daizy on January 5, 2003, at 7:45:17
In reply to Re: Seeing Dots....... » daizy, posted by IsoM on January 4, 2003, at 17:58:54
Thanx for the responses. I had seen a doctor about these, and she said it was perfectly normal, and that its just magnified because Im anxious, I was just wondering if anyone else had them too, so thanx! good info IsoM
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