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Posted by Denise528 on January 2, 2002, at 6:17:18
Hello,
I've just been reading The Successful Treatment of Brain Chemical Imbalance by Dr Martin Jenson. His technique interests me as I have been depressed since June, the antidepressants don't seem to be working and I am anxious to move on quickly to another. My current Psychiatrist believes in trying each AD for an extended period of time and it is very frustrating. At this rate I could spend the rest of my life trying to hit on the right drug. Does anyone know if there are any Psyciatrists in the UK who practice Dr Martin's methods. By this I mean intensive trials of different drugs within a short space of time to try and find the right match rather than sticking on a drug for months and months before giving up.
I know that these drugs can take a while to work but from past experience I also feel that one should notice some improvement in the first two weeks. In the past I have felt major improvements within a couple of days.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thx......Denise
Posted by shellir on January 2, 2002, at 12:11:19
In reply to Dr Martin Jenson technique, posted by Denise528 on January 2, 2002, at 6:17:18
> Hello,
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> I've just been reading "The successful Treatment of Brain Chemial Inbalance" by Dr Martin Jenson. His technique interests me as I have been depressed since June, the antidepressants don't seem to be working and I am anxious to move on quickly to another. My current Psychiatrist believes in trying each AD for an extended period of time and it is very frustrating. At this rate I could spend the rest of my life trying to hit on the right drug. Does anyone know if there are any Psyciatrists in the UK who practice Dr Martin's methods. By this I mean intensive trials of different drugs within a short space of time to try and find the right match rather than sticking on a drug for months and months before giving up.
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> I know that these drugs can take a while to work but from past experience I also feel that one should notice some improvement in the first two weeks. In the past I have felt major improvements within a couple of days.
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> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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> Thx......DeniseHi Denise.
I totally understand your frustration with long tests; my pdoc for years always pushed pushed pushed for longer trials. My experience thus far has been mixed: the MAOI (nardil) which helped me for so many years actually took five weeks to kick in. Before that I felt no positive effects from it, but also no negative effects, and it felt as if it kicked in all at once.
With lamictal, because the titration has to be so slow, I found it also took over two weeks for me to feel any positive effect. Again, however, I had no negative side effects, so it wasn't a difficult wait. (I did gain 15ls in water weight and decided to go off, later.)
On the other hand, there have been many meds I took that immediately caused side effects. That is when I had the greatest problem in convincing my pdoc that once I experience side effects, they seem not to ever go away. If a medication makes me very tired (e.g. topomax), if seems that no matter how long I try to adjust, fatigue remains a problem.
There have been many many discussions on this board about Martin Jensen and his techniques, so you might want to do a search and read through.
It has seemed to me that there are folks using this method, but they are working with regular, though probably more open psychiatrists, and together they set up the protocol. So I think rather than putting on the energy into finding another "Martin Jensen", I would find someone where you live who is willing to allow you to set up your own drug protocols and scheduling. I don't know how easy that is to find in the UK, where mostly I have heard horror stories; I guess it depends on whether you are using the national insurance system.
Shelli
Posted by pedr on January 3, 2002, at 7:28:59
In reply to Re: Dr Martin Jenson technique » Denise528, posted by shellir on January 2, 2002, at 12:11:19
Hi there,
my experience of NHS [national health service] psychiatrists is that they will try SSRI, effexor, tricyclic and then give up. I was told by my [reputedly excellent] psychiatrist that I'd tried the "3 main groups" [whatever that means]and that nothing was going to work for me. What a toss-pot. I'm just glad I found this board which has opened my eyes.Currently I am seeing a private psychiatrist who is willing to try polypharmacy and other approaches. He sticks to the 6-8 week trial period though so I guess he's not what you're looking for.
I'd say the chances of finding a psychiatrist in the UK who'll practice Dr Martin's methods are slim but good luck in finding him/her anyway.
HTH,
pedr
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