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Posted by Krazy Kat on November 13, 2001, at 9:30:33
Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
Does anyone have any suggesions?
Thanks!
- K.
Posted by JohnX2 on November 13, 2001, at 10:06:15
In reply to How to get up in the morning?, posted by Krazy Kat on November 13, 2001, at 9:30:33
When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
races.Maybe something less controversial like provigil
would help?My 2c. your experience may vary.
regards,
john
> Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
>
> I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
>
> The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
>
> Does anyone have any suggesions?
>
> Thanks!
>
> - K.
Posted by Pamela Lynn on November 13, 2001, at 13:49:04
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » Krazy Kat , posted by JohnX2 on November 13, 2001, at 10:06:15
How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> races.
>
> Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> would help?
>
> My 2c. your experience may vary.
>
> regards,
> john
>
>
> > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> >
> > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> >
> > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> >
> > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > - K.
Posted by JohnX2 on November 13, 2001, at 14:37:29
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » JohnX2, posted by Pamela Lynn on November 13, 2001, at 13:49:04
Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
to even get into the shower, that's when I
started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
device to administer a med in the morning while
you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
a med that has now side effects and works for
everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
your house caught on fire or something?regards,
john> How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > races.
> >
> > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > would help?
> >
> > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> >
> > regards,
> > john
> >
> >
> > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > >
> > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > >
> > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > - K.
Posted by Pamela Lynn on November 13, 2001, at 17:25:04
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » Pamela Lynn, posted by JohnX2 on November 13, 2001, at 14:37:29
>LOL JohnX2!!!!!
However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?Pamela Lynn
> Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> to even get into the shower, that's when I
> started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> device to administer a med in the morning while
> you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> a med that has now side effects and works for
> everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
>
> If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> your house caught on fire or something?
>
> regards,
> john
>
> > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > races.
> > >
> > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > would help?
> > >
> > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > john
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > >
> > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > >
> > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > - K.
Posted by Noa on November 13, 2001, at 17:43:32
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » JohnX2, posted by Pamela Lynn on November 13, 2001, at 13:49:04
I take my adderall first thing when I wake up, too. I don't go back to sleep, but I do allow myself about one hour of veg time, playing computer games, etc. before having to get in gear to bathe, dress,etc. This hour is also when I get my light box time in, which also helps.
I do have diffculty with some meds being too sedating. For example, klonopin was prescribed for AD-induced restless legs/sleep problems, but when I take it (even half the dose) it is hard to get up in the morning--even if I take it really early in the evening. Same for Sonata, which also causes my mood to go south if I take it for more than one night in a row.
I think your alarm-adderall-snooze approach is good--especially since it seems to work for you!
Posted by JohnX2 on November 13, 2001, at 18:18:03
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » JohnX2, posted by Pamela Lynn on November 13, 2001, at 17:25:04
I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
down to 8.Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
it with stimulating meds is a solution.-john
> >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
>
> Pamela Lynn
> > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> >
> > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > your house caught on fire or something?
> >
> > regards,
> > john
> >
> > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > races.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > would help?
> > > >
> > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > john
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > >
> > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > >
> > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > >
> > > > > - K.
Posted by Pamela Lynn on November 13, 2001, at 18:36:02
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » Pamela Lynn, posted by JohnX2 on November 13, 2001, at 18:18:03
Well...that last thing I have to say on this subject is that I REALLY don't like to take anymore meds. then I 'have to'...You know? For me, and this is just 'my' thinking, my liver is going through enough with the anti-depressants that I am on. Example: I used to take Zyprexa in a solid block, pretty high dose...WOW, was I zonked out like a zombie for a few days...I figured it to be the Zyprexa and contacted my shrink right away...she lowered the dose and put me on half doses throughout the day instead...What a difference. I was not a zombie anymore!! Again..that is just my opinion/experience.
I say..."whatever works for you" is the right thing.
P.L.
> I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
> 8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
> of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
> That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
> down to 8.
>
> Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
> making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
> it with stimulating meds is a solution.
>
> -john
>
>
> > >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> > However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
> >
> > Pamela Lynn
> > > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> > >
> > > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > > your house caught on fire or something?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > john
> > >
> > > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > > races.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > > would help?
> > > > >
> > > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > john
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - K.
Posted by JohnX2 on November 13, 2001, at 23:31:40
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » JohnX2, posted by Pamela Lynn on November 13, 2001, at 18:36:02
Ever throw up in your car, or just about pass out
on a med and crash into someone? Believe me, I feel
the pain!Good luck finding non-intrusive meds.
I believe that not being depressed must include
not having shitty side effects but that does not
seem to be what the FDA accepts as being "cured".
So I look for meds to cure my depression with
low side effects which currently in order is1) Lamictal - > 0 side effects
2) Klonopin - > less anxiety
3) Zyprexa - > a teansy drowsy but that's it at 5 mg.While I haven't completely cured my dysthymia,
I *refuse* at this point to trade off getting more
side effects for more anti-depressant relief.I guess there is a "Gray" area where we must draw
a line in the sand. When I had Major Depression, the
side effects were less of a big deal. but now...regards,
john
> Well...that last thing I have to say on this subject is that I REALLY don't like to take anymore meds. then I 'have to'...You know? For me, and this is just 'my' thinking, my liver is going through enough with the anti-depressants that I am on. Example: I used to take Zyprexa in a solid block, pretty high dose...WOW, was I zonked out like a zombie for a few days...I figured it to be the Zyprexa and contacted my shrink right away...she lowered the dose and put me on half doses throughout the day instead...What a difference. I was not a zombie anymore!! Again..that is just my opinion/experience.
>
> I say..."whatever works for you" is the right thing.
>
> P.L.
> > I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
> > 8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
> > of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
> > That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
> > down to 8.
> >
> > Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
> > making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
> > it with stimulating meds is a solution.
> >
> > -john
> >
> >
> > > >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> > > However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
> > >
> > > Pamela Lynn
> > > > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > > > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > > > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > > > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > > > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > > > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > > > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > > > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > > > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > > > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > > > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > > > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > > > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> > > >
> > > > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > > > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > > > your house caught on fire or something?
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > john
> > > >
> > > > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > > > races.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > > > would help?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > john
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - K.
Posted by Pamela Lynn on November 14, 2001, at 8:03:39
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » Pamela Lynn, posted by JohnX2 on November 13, 2001, at 23:31:40
Once again here John...."whatever works for you"...and no, I have never thrown up in my car or just about passed out from meds. while driving my car!!! My gosh..that's happened to you? I won't even drive my car if I was on Benadryl...when I take meds. I KNOW what the side effects can/are. I am a very informed and well researched patient. I hope whoever reads this is also well informed about the meds that they are on.
I am not going to get into this any further however, this is all I will post on this matter...Thanks for listening. P.L.
> Ever throw up in your car, or just about pass out
> on a med and crash into someone? Believe me, I feel
> the pain!
>
> Good luck finding non-intrusive meds.
> I believe that not being depressed must include
> not having shitty side effects but that does not
> seem to be what the FDA accepts as being "cured".
> So I look for meds to cure my depression with
> low side effects which currently in order is
>
> 1) Lamictal - > 0 side effects
> 2) Klonopin - > less anxiety
> 3) Zyprexa - > a teansy drowsy but that's it at 5 mg.
>
> While I haven't completely cured my dysthymia,
> I *refuse* at this point to trade off getting more
> side effects for more anti-depressant relief.
>
> I guess there is a "Gray" area where we must draw
> a line in the sand. When I had Major Depression, the
> side effects were less of a big deal. but now...
>
> regards,
> john
>
>
> > Well...that last thing I have to say on this subject is that I REALLY don't like to take anymore meds. then I 'have to'...You know? For me, and this is just 'my' thinking, my liver is going through enough with the anti-depressants that I am on. Example: I used to take Zyprexa in a solid block, pretty high dose...WOW, was I zonked out like a zombie for a few days...I figured it to be the Zyprexa and contacted my shrink right away...she lowered the dose and put me on half doses throughout the day instead...What a difference. I was not a zombie anymore!! Again..that is just my opinion/experience.
> >
> > I say..."whatever works for you" is the right thing.
> >
> > P.L.
> > > I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
> > > 8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
> > > of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
> > > That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
> > > down to 8.
> > >
> > > Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
> > > making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
> > > it with stimulating meds is a solution.
> > >
> > > -john
> > >
> > >
> > > > >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> > > > However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
> > > >
> > > > Pamela Lynn
> > > > > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > > > > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > > > > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > > > > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > > > > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > > > > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > > > > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > > > > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > > > > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > > > > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > > > > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > > > > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > > > > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> > > > >
> > > > > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > > > > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > > > > your house caught on fire or something?
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > john
> > > > >
> > > > > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > > > > races.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > > > > would help?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > john
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - K.
Posted by petey on November 14, 2001, at 9:36:56
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » JohnX2, posted by Pamela Lynn on November 14, 2001, at 8:03:39
> Once again here John...."whatever works for you"...and no, I have never thrown up in my car or just about passed out from meds. while driving my car!!! My gosh..that's happened to you? I won't even drive my car if I was on Benadryl...when I take meds. I KNOW what the side effects can/are. I am a very informed and well researched patient. I hope whoever reads this is also well informed about the meds that they are on.
>
> I am not going to get into this any further however, this is all I will post on this matter...Thanks for listening. P.L.
> > Ever throw up in your car, or just about pass out
> > on a med and crash into someone? Believe me, I feel
> > the pain!
> >
> > Good luck finding non-intrusive meds.
> > I believe that not being depressed must include
> > not having shitty side effects but that does not
> > seem to be what the FDA accepts as being "cured".
> > So I look for meds to cure my depression with
> > low side effects which currently in order is
> >
> > 1) Lamictal - > 0 side effects
> > 2) Klonopin - > less anxiety
> > 3) Zyprexa - > a teansy drowsy but that's it at 5 mg.
> >
> > While I haven't completely cured my dysthymia,
> > I *refuse* at this point to trade off getting more
> > side effects for more anti-depressant relief.
> >
> > I guess there is a "Gray" area where we must draw
> > a line in the sand. When I had Major Depression, the
> > side effects were less of a big deal. but now...
> >
> > regards,
> > john
> >
> >
> > > Well...that last thing I have to say on this subject is that I REALLY don't like to take anymore meds. then I 'have to'...You know? For me, and this is just 'my' thinking, my liver is going through enough with the anti-depressants that I am on. Example: I used to take Zyprexa in a solid block, pretty high dose...WOW, was I zonked out like a zombie for a few days...I figured it to be the Zyprexa and contacted my shrink right away...she lowered the dose and put me on half doses throughout the day instead...What a difference. I was not a zombie anymore!! Again..that is just my opinion/experience.
> > >
> > > I say..."whatever works for you" is the right thing.
> > >
> > > P.L.
> > > > I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
> > > > 8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
> > > > of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
> > > > That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
> > > > down to 8.
> > > >
> > > > Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
> > > > making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
> > > > it with stimulating meds is a solution.
> > > >
> > > > -john
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> > > > > However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pamela Lynn
> > > > > > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > > > > > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > > > > > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > > > > > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > > > > > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > > > > > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > > > > > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > > > > > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > > > > > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > > > > > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > > > > > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > > > > > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > > > > > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > > > > > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > > > > > your house caught on fire or something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > john
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > > > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > > > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > > > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > > > > > races.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > > > > > would help?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > john
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - K.
Pamela Lynn,
I know exactly what your saying about being a well informed patient and getting as much info. about a med. before taking it. When I was first dx'd with depression, my doctor put me on Paxil. I specifically asked her what the side-effects were and she said, fatigue, dry mouth, anxiety, etc. She had no idea what this med. could do to some people. I was never so sick in my life!!! Pupils dialated, couldn't sleep for WEEKS, couldn't eat, numbness in my face, an all over sickness that I cannot describe! I ended up in the hospital with psychotic major depression. This all happened to a person who was mildly depressed. For the last 15 months, my life has been hell. I could not research the meds. they put me on in the hospital, just had to trust them and go along with the program. At that point, I would take anything they wanted me to just to stop the pain. Actually everything they gave me made me worse! Made me like a zombie and I couldn't remember anything! A nurse would tell me her name and I would forget it before she walked away! After they got me "stabilized", they sent me home. That is when I really started to research the drugs they had put me on. I found that what I was experiencing was drug induced psycosis. I started to wean myself off some of the meds. they had put me on and all the paranoia and obsessive thinking went away! I am down to 12.5 mgs. of zoloft and feel like crap! I don't know if I feel this bad due to withdrawl or what. After this terrible experience, I found that my progesterone level is very low and was told that could have been the reason I was depressed in the first place! Before I went on the Paxil, I asked my doctor specifically if she would check my hormones and she said I was much to young to have any problems with that yet. So now, after all I've been through you can bet I reasearch EVERYTHING that goes in my body . I'm even afraid to take over the counter meds. when I have a cold or something else. Just to let you know, before I started the Paxil, I did read all the information about it that I could find and talked to my doctor about side-effects. I was told not to worry and that I was not going to believe how much BETTER I was going to feel when this med. kicked in! Well, that didn't happen and I'm still suffering today because of bad judgement by myself and my doctor. This has really taught me not to trust doctos (like I always did), and to not take ANYTHING without knowing all thae facts first. A very hard lesson to learn! Take care!
Petey
Posted by Krazy Kat on November 14, 2001, at 12:32:20
In reply to How to get up in the morning?, posted by Krazy Kat on November 13, 2001, at 9:30:33
Hmmm, well, many thanks for the input, but it seems this rather innocuous question has somehow become controversial. I certainly don't think John meant to imply that adding meds to a regime is better than changing them - this has just been his experience.
Certainly we need to be aware of the side effects of medications before we start them. I imagine most of us check the otc boxes as well. But, and I know it gets redundant here, everyone reacts differently. You do need to have a pdoc you can trust, because he or she does have more knowledge in the field than you will. If your doctor was remiss, that's a horrible thing. But I think we all need a (good) doctor's guidance just the same.
I certainly don't want to add anything else to my mix, but we have to make choices. Depakote literally kept me from being hospitalized. If it's sedating, that's frustrating, but not as frustrating as suicide. Sometimes you have to compromise - the are no wonder drugs out there yet, for most people at least.
I appreciate the adderall suggestion - it may be what I do.
Any further thoughts are greatly appreciated, too.
- K.
Posted by Sleepy on November 14, 2001, at 13:40:28
In reply to Making choices with meds..., posted by Krazy Kat on November 14, 2001, at 12:32:20
> Hmmm, well, many thanks for the input, but it seems this rather innocuous question has somehow become controversial. I certainly don't think John meant to imply that adding meds to a regime is better than changing them - this has just been his experience.
>
> Certainly we need to be aware of the side effects of medications before we start them. I imagine most of us check the otc boxes as well. But, and I know it gets redundant here, everyone reacts differently. You do need to have a pdoc you can trust, because he or she does have more knowledge in the field than you will. If your doctor was remiss, that's a horrible thing. But I think we all need a (good) doctor's guidance just the same.
>
> I certainly don't want to add anything else to my mix, but we have to make choices. Depakote literally kept me from being hospitalized. If it's sedating, that's frustrating, but not as frustrating as suicide. Sometimes you have to compromise - the are no wonder drugs out there yet, for most people at least.
>
> I appreciate the adderall suggestion - it may be what I do.
>
> Any further thoughts are greatly appreciated, too.
>
> - K.You do have a point there about having to make choices--even with the side effects (I'm on Depakote and really hate it, but grudgingly admit that it helps to even out my moods--I'm bipolar with extreme mania, extreme depressions and, the older I get, seemingly no in-betweens). I used to be suicidal. Now I'm just medicated to the gills, still depressed quite a bit and extremely, extremely tired ): It's still gotta beat being dead though (and not long ago I would have said that nothing could be better than death)--and I have hopes that someday, with the help of my therapist and pdoc, I may even get WELL (hey, it could happen).
~Sleepy
Posted by Krazy Kat on November 14, 2001, at 14:42:44
In reply to Re: Making choices with meds... » Krazy Kat , posted by Sleepy on November 14, 2001, at 13:40:28
Sleepy:
It's not the easiest drug to tolerate, is it? :)
I have a constant worry in the back of my head about liver function, etc. I just went in to have more lab tests (valproate (sp?) level, etc.), and the nurse did a terrible job getting my vein. I almost passed out. So, I think, "How often am I going to be able to do this?"
The other mood stabilizers I tried weren't right, though, and the cognitive side effects of Topamax were worse.
Like you, I hit a really bad point where this med came to be useful. And I am also cycling more and more rapidly as I get older.
Do you take anything to counteract the sedation?
Thanks for your info!
- K.
Posted by Chloe on November 14, 2001, at 19:23:44
In reply to Re: Making choices with meds... » Sleepy, posted by Krazy Kat on November 14, 2001, at 14:42:44
KK
Sorry you are having trouble starting your day.
At some point I think I remember you mentioning that you drink alcohol. Perhaps that is adding to your sedation? I took Depakote 750 mgs for about a year, and never had a problem with sedation after the initial start up period. (But, I don't drink alcohol.) I kinda wish the sedation had lasted! I hate feeling anxious, and I prefer sedation over anxiety anyday!I hope you find some good solution that works for you...These mood stabilizers are tough on the body. I am having my problems with Lithium at the moment...
Take care :-)
Chloe
Posted by Krazy Kat on November 15, 2001, at 8:44:44
In reply to Re: Making choices with meds... » Krazy Kat , posted by Chloe on November 14, 2001, at 19:23:44
Chloe:
Very insightful of you! :) Yes, when I drink it's worse. Need to exercise, too. Can't beat the healthy basics, can you?
Thanks!
- K.
Posted by Sleepy on November 16, 2001, at 14:45:16
In reply to Re: Making choices with meds... » Sleepy, posted by Krazy Kat on November 14, 2001, at 14:42:44
> Sleepy:
>
> It's not the easiest drug to tolerate, is it? :)
>
> I have a constant worry in the back of my head about liver function, etc. I just went in to have more lab tests (valproate (sp?) level, etc.), and the nurse did a terrible job getting my vein. I almost passed out. So, I think, "How often am I going to be able to do this?"
>
> The other mood stabilizers I tried weren't right, though, and the cognitive side effects of Topamax were worse.
>
> Like you, I hit a really bad point where this med came to be useful. And I am also cycling more and more rapidly as I get older.
>
> Do you take anything to counteract the sedation?
>
> Thanks for your info!
>
> - K.Krazy Kat,
I don't take anything aside from the depakote. And there are times I seriously consider not taking it at all anymore. My pdoc said that I might think about only taking it when I feel mania coming on. I've never heard anyone say anything like that. Have you? I was telling him I'd rather not be on anything at all though and he was saying, "You're an adult. It's really your decision." Yet I feel trapped into taking my meds--due to family and friends. They're all scared to death of what might happen if I stop. Been more and more depressed and I refuse to take anything else. I just am tired of adding more meds to the mix. *sigh* I also worry about the liver thing and recently had a blood test done (all's well, so that's a relief).
Best,
Sleepy
Posted by LyndaK on November 16, 2001, at 22:46:55
In reply to Making choices with meds..., posted by Krazy Kat on November 14, 2001, at 12:32:20
K,
I'm not on the same med. as you, but sedation and EXTREME difficulty getting up in the morning is also a problem with mine. I found that once I was doing well emotionally and the side-effects were becoming my biggest problem that I did better by reducing my dose of the med. a LITTLE, VERY slowly over time. When my dose got too low my mood went down so I bumped the dose back up a little -- found my "happy medium". I'm still doing well emotionally and the side-effects have reduced.Good Luck!
Lynda
> Hmmm, well, many thanks for the input, but it seems this rather innocuous question has somehow become controversial. I certainly don't think John meant to imply that adding meds to a regime is better than changing them - this has just been his experience.
>
> Certainly we need to be aware of the side effects of medications before we start them. I imagine most of us check the otc boxes as well. But, and I know it gets redundant here, everyone reacts differently. You do need to have a pdoc you can trust, because he or she does have more knowledge in the field than you will. If your doctor was remiss, that's a horrible thing. But I think we all need a (good) doctor's guidance just the same.
>
> I certainly don't want to add anything else to my mix, but we have to make choices. Depakote literally kept me from being hospitalized. If it's sedating, that's frustrating, but not as frustrating as suicide. Sometimes you have to compromise - the are no wonder drugs out there yet, for most people at least.
>
> I appreciate the adderall suggestion - it may be what I do.
>
> Any further thoughts are greatly appreciated, too.
>
> - K.
Posted by JohnX2 on November 17, 2001, at 2:54:02
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » JohnX2, posted by Pamela Lynn on November 14, 2001, at 8:03:39
I was at place A and needed to drive to place
B, which was withing 20 minutes of driving.
When I left location A, I was "fine" it was
inbetween that the med side effects from
paxil/Serzone hit me really hard.
Just really bad timing.I've learned to start meds on the weekend and
not operate machinery until I feel steady on
the meds. At the time I has in major depressive
despair and it was during my 1st few meds, so I
just didn't know better. I think the doctors
could have done a better job of warning me. I
tend to react very heavily to meds with drowsiness
side effects. Now that I have a lot of background
data, I know which meds to avoid or watch out
for carefully as I dose them.On the bright side, I had a grocery bag next
to be when I barfed which worked nicely as a
barf bag. And the accident was a slight rear-end
job. One of my tires was a little flat and I skid
about 4 feet after I slammed on the brakes and
hit the person in front of me. I think if my car
was in better shape or if I reacted a split
second sooner (which serzone prevented),
the accident would have been avoided. BTW I
gave up on Serzone because of this, but it was
one of the few AD's that worked well. Here is
a case where I argue that augmentation of a
stimulant may have been acceptable to offset
the serzone side effects. I would have happily
taken meds to offset side effects if I could
have remained not-depressed, but that was
not "that" pdocs style.Rats.
-john
> Once again here John...."whatever works for you"...and no, I have never thrown up in my car or just about passed out from meds. while driving my car!!! My gosh..that's happened to you? I won't even drive my car if I was on Benadryl...when I take meds. I KNOW what the side effects can/are. I am a very informed and well researched patient. I hope whoever reads this is also well informed about the meds that they are on.
>
> I am not going to get into this any further however, this is all I will post on this matter...Thanks for listening. P.L.
> > Ever throw up in your car, or just about pass out
> > on a med and crash into someone? Believe me, I feel
> > the pain!
> >
> > Good luck finding non-intrusive meds.
> > I believe that not being depressed must include
> > not having shitty side effects but that does not
> > seem to be what the FDA accepts as being "cured".
> > So I look for meds to cure my depression with
> > low side effects which currently in order is
> >
> > 1) Lamictal - > 0 side effects
> > 2) Klonopin - > less anxiety
> > 3) Zyprexa - > a teansy drowsy but that's it at 5 mg.
> >
> > While I haven't completely cured my dysthymia,
> > I *refuse* at this point to trade off getting more
> > side effects for more anti-depressant relief.
> >
> > I guess there is a "Gray" area where we must draw
> > a line in the sand. When I had Major Depression, the
> > side effects were less of a big deal. but now...
> >
> > regards,
> > john
> >
> >
> > > Well...that last thing I have to say on this subject is that I REALLY don't like to take anymore meds. then I 'have to'...You know? For me, and this is just 'my' thinking, my liver is going through enough with the anti-depressants that I am on. Example: I used to take Zyprexa in a solid block, pretty high dose...WOW, was I zonked out like a zombie for a few days...I figured it to be the Zyprexa and contacted my shrink right away...she lowered the dose and put me on half doses throughout the day instead...What a difference. I was not a zombie anymore!! Again..that is just my opinion/experience.
> > >
> > > I say..."whatever works for you" is the right thing.
> > >
> > > P.L.
> > > > I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
> > > > 8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
> > > > of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
> > > > That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
> > > > down to 8.
> > > >
> > > > Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
> > > > making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
> > > > it with stimulating meds is a solution.
> > > >
> > > > -john
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> > > > > However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pamela Lynn
> > > > > > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > > > > > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > > > > > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > > > > > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > > > > > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > > > > > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > > > > > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > > > > > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > > > > > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > > > > > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > > > > > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > > > > > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > > > > > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > > > > > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > > > > > your house caught on fire or something?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > john
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > > > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > > > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > > > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > > > > > races.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > > > > > would help?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > john
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - K.
Posted by svevo1922 on November 21, 2001, at 10:24:48
In reply to Re: How to get up in the morning? » Pamela Lynn, posted by JohnX2 on November 17, 2001, at 2:54:02
>A few days ago, I saw an ad for a pillbox that has a container for water and a built-in straw. It was developed for people who have to take medication during the day while on the move, but I was thinking of ordering it so that I would get into the habit of taking my medication earlier (while still in bed), rather than later. It's apparently sold at a web site, www.goldviolin.com.
And I'm always planning to lay out my clothes the night before, but it's been years, and it still hasn't happened...
> I was at place A and needed to drive to place
> B, which was withing 20 minutes of driving.
> When I left location A, I was "fine" it was
> inbetween that the med side effects from
> paxil/Serzone hit me really hard.
> Just really bad timing.
>
> I've learned to start meds on the weekend and
> not operate machinery until I feel steady on
> the meds. At the time I has in major depressive
> despair and it was during my 1st few meds, so I
> just didn't know better. I think the doctors
> could have done a better job of warning me. I
> tend to react very heavily to meds with drowsiness
> side effects. Now that I have a lot of background
> data, I know which meds to avoid or watch out
> for carefully as I dose them.
>
> On the bright side, I had a grocery bag next
> to be when I barfed which worked nicely as a
> barf bag. And the accident was a slight rear-end
> job. One of my tires was a little flat and I skid
> about 4 feet after I slammed on the brakes and
> hit the person in front of me. I think if my car
> was in better shape or if I reacted a split
> second sooner (which serzone prevented),
> the accident would have been avoided. BTW I
> gave up on Serzone because of this, but it was
> one of the few AD's that worked well. Here is
> a case where I argue that augmentation of a
> stimulant may have been acceptable to offset
> the serzone side effects. I would have happily
> taken meds to offset side effects if I could
> have remained not-depressed, but that was
> not "that" pdocs style.
>
> Rats.
>
> -john
>
>
> > Once again here John...."whatever works for you"...and no, I have never thrown up in my car or just about passed out from meds. while driving my car!!! My gosh..that's happened to you? I won't even drive my car if I was on Benadryl...when I take meds. I KNOW what the side effects can/are. I am a very informed and well researched patient. I hope whoever reads this is also well informed about the meds that they are on.
> >
> > I am not going to get into this any further however, this is all I will post on this matter...Thanks for listening. P.L.
> > > Ever throw up in your car, or just about pass out
> > > on a med and crash into someone? Believe me, I feel
> > > the pain!
> > >
> > > Good luck finding non-intrusive meds.
> > > I believe that not being depressed must include
> > > not having shitty side effects but that does not
> > > seem to be what the FDA accepts as being "cured".
> > > So I look for meds to cure my depression with
> > > low side effects which currently in order is
> > >
> > > 1) Lamictal - > 0 side effects
> > > 2) Klonopin - > less anxiety
> > > 3) Zyprexa - > a teansy drowsy but that's it at 5 mg.
> > >
> > > While I haven't completely cured my dysthymia,
> > > I *refuse* at this point to trade off getting more
> > > side effects for more anti-depressant relief.
> > >
> > > I guess there is a "Gray" area where we must draw
> > > a line in the sand. When I had Major Depression, the
> > > side effects were less of a big deal. but now...
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > john
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well...that last thing I have to say on this subject is that I REALLY don't like to take anymore meds. then I 'have to'...You know? For me, and this is just 'my' thinking, my liver is going through enough with the anti-depressants that I am on. Example: I used to take Zyprexa in a solid block, pretty high dose...WOW, was I zonked out like a zombie for a few days...I figured it to be the Zyprexa and contacted my shrink right away...she lowered the dose and put me on half doses throughout the day instead...What a difference. I was not a zombie anymore!! Again..that is just my opinion/experience.
> > > >
> > > > I say..."whatever works for you" is the right thing.
> > > >
> > > > P.L.
> > > > > I don't think so. Maybe you could wake up after
> > > > > 8 hrs and take the adderall and only need 9 hrs
> > > > > of sleep and not feel tired. hint.hint.
> > > > > That's what I did. Cut my sleeping from 12 hrs
> > > > > down to 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, agree that a stand-alone med that is
> > > > > making one that drowsy may not be wise. But offsetting
> > > > > it with stimulating meds is a solution.
> > > > >
> > > > > -john
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >LOL JohnX2!!!!!
> > > > > > However.....I would not take meds. that I could not function on after 10-12 hrs of sleep! Really!! I think, am pretty sure actually, that my Psychiatrist would be pretty unsettled by it also! If after (in my opinion only here) 10-12 hrs. of sleep one feels the need to go back to sleep and is very sluggish, it would tell 'me' that I needed a change of some sort in my meds. You know?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Pamela Lynn
> > > > > > > Well, I can wake up to the alarm clock next
> > > > > > > to my bed and pick up the bottle of Adderall
> > > > > > > and pop a pill and hit the snooze button, but
> > > > > > > I can't do much more than that! At 1st I took
> > > > > > > the Adderall when I woke up and took a shower,
> > > > > > > but I felt too crummy for 1 hr and it was difficult
> > > > > > > to even get into the shower, that's when I
> > > > > > > started plan B (wake up to alarm, take pill, go
> > > > > > > back to sleep). Hey, maybe I can patent a mechanical
> > > > > > > device to administer a med in the morning while
> > > > > > > you are sleeping! I'd be rich! Maybe I could patent
> > > > > > > a med that has now side effects and works for
> > > > > > > everyone! I'd be Bill Gates!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If I couldn't wake up to an alarm, I would be
> > > > > > > very leary of the meds I was taking! What if
> > > > > > > your house caught on fire or something?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > john
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How do you take this one hour before waking up if you can't wake up???? I'm confused.
> > > > > > > > > When I had this problem, I would take Adderall
> > > > > > > > > about 1 hr before when I wanted to wake up.
> > > > > > > > > Majically one hr later, I would be off to the
> > > > > > > > > races.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Maybe something less controversial like provigil
> > > > > > > > > would help?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My 2c. your experience may vary.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > john
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Hi, all. I know I've posted this in some form in the past, but am continuing to have trouble getting out of bed in the morning, even with a new regime.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I stopped taking Topamax which had always been sedating, upped Depakote from 1000 to 1500, and continue on 60 mg of Prozac.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The daily sedation overall is better since stopping the Topamax. But I sleep 11 - 12 hours a night, the heaviest in the morning, and just do not get out of bed unless there's a fire under my feet.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have any suggesions?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - K.
Posted by JudyJudy on September 12, 2003, at 11:56:40
In reply to Re: Making choices with meds... » Krazy Kat , posted by Chloe on November 14, 2001, at 19:23:44
I am 59 years old. Three years ago I was diagnosed bipolar.
I wanted to share my story in hopes to motivate people to read about the medicines they take. Not to go on blind faith. I do believe there should be some kind of law to hold medical persons accountable for errors with medications along side a person that broke the law because they were on these medications.I was taking 900 mg of lithium a day, 150 mg of Wellbutrin, 7.5 mg of Tranzene twice a day and 300 mg of Tiazac each day.
I drove a car and got into a hit and run accident. No, one was hurt, thank God. I have no recollection. I did not know this happened until I found a police citation in a drawer. This is a horrible feeling.
I wanted to know what happened the day of my accident and why. My family and friends gave me my first clues. They said that the day of the accident before it occurred, my speech was slurred, hands were shaking, memory from one minute to the next was terrible and I was stumbling when I’d walk.
I had never read about my medicines. I would fill them and take them as the doctor directed, trusting that the doctors knew what they were doing. I started reading a book called, “Worst Pills and Best Pills”. I was astounded at what I read. What shocked me most was what I’ve been through is not uncommon. This miss-prescribing and over-prescribing goes on all the time. Sometimes errors with medications can be fatal. I had a memory creep back to me sometime during this time. I was on these medication. I was trying to cross the street at light. I could not remember when to cross. Was it on the green or red? I guessed and walked. This lady almost hit me. To her or anyone I caused stress at this time I’m very sorry. (In case she read this.)
I kept an old classic car of mine thinking I may go back to driving one day. The medicines just say, “Don’t drive until you know how you react to it.” I find this very deceptive too. The medicines I was on accumulate in the system. One day you are fine and the next you aren’t.
I have 2 friends that drive on medication. One is bipolar going to DUI classes over medication. The other has an anxiety disorder lost his license because of medication. I hope I have not offended anyone but this is such a serious issue.
Sincerely,
Judy F.
Posted by KimberlyDi on September 12, 2003, at 14:36:26
In reply to Re: Making choices with meds..., posted by JudyJudy on September 12, 2003, at 11:56:40
Thank you for a sobering reminder of how careful we must be when we are taking medication, ANY kind of medication. My p-doc was very stern when she wrote the prescription for Trazadone to help me sleep at night. She informed me that there is no way I can drive once I take that pill, until the next morning. Even while on Welbutrin, which is supposed to be stimulating, I had to be careful because I had the tendacy to "zone out" while driving.
Thanks for sharing,
KDi in Texas
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