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Posted by Hattree on August 14, 2001, at 17:24:01
Was taking Sonata 5 mg caps w/succes, sometimes even when I broke open the capsule and took less than 5, sometimes up to 2 if on ADD meds. So I got some 10 mg caps and they make me wiped out the whole next day, even if I only take half of the capsule. Has my response changed or is there something more different about the formulation of the 5 mg?
Is there any other, even shorter-acting sleeping tablet? I find the otc antihistimine kind make me hung over as well.
Posted by Cam W. on August 14, 2001, at 19:45:33
In reply to zaleplon--Cam?, posted by Hattree on August 14, 2001, at 17:24:01
Hattree - That's weird. I was taking the Starnoc™ (zaleplon - Sonata in U.S.) 5mg caps, and they were working for about a week. I am now taking the 10mg caps and they don't seem to be putting me to sleep, at all (even 2). The half-life of zaleplon is approximately an hour; good for us who just have trouble initiating sleep, but no good for those who wake up during the night.
As for causing you to have a "hangover effect" with the 10mg caps, it shouldn't be happening. I don't have a copy of the product monograph at home with me, so I can't comment on drug interactions, but I believe there were few if any.
I can't think of any hypnotics with a shorter half-life, in pill form. Halcion™ has a fairly short half-life (1.5h to 5h), but many docs won't prescribe these, as they make you "feel good", and are (or, at least were) turning into sought-after street drugs. Prostitutes were also using them to put into their Johns' drinks, and then rolling them. I have heard many weird stories about Halcion experiences. The amnesia that they produce has made many people, the next day, feel very embarrassed about what they had done while under it's influence. It is very hard to get someone to stop Imovane, though. Like most short-acting psychotropics, the withdrawl symptoms hit hard and fast.
A good hypnotic that we have in Canada zopiclone (Imovane™). Very little "hangover effect" the next morning; gets you to sleep and keeps you asleep; and has very little addictive potential.
I don't know anything about Ambien™ (zolpidem?), but I here that it seems to be safe and effective. Others on this board could help you with this one.
I know that this does not give you many answers, but perhaps asking your doc to prescribe the 5mg Sonata again, and see if it is good enough. - Cam
Posted by kazoo on August 14, 2001, at 23:14:25
In reply to Re: zaleplon--Cam? » Hattree, posted by Cam W. on August 14, 2001, at 19:45:33
> Halcion™ has a fairly short half-life (1.5h to 5h), but many docs won't prescribe these, as they make you "feel good", and are (or, at least were) turning into sought-after street drugs. Prostitutes were also using them to put into their Johns' drinks, and then rolling them. I have heard many weird stories about Halcion experiences. The amnesia that they produce has made many people, the next day, feel very embarrassed about what they had done while under it's influence.
^^^^^^^^^^^
In addition, Halcion has been implicated in several suicides and with suicidal-depressions resulting (of course!) in litigation against UPJOHN. The drug was also banned in a few places on this planet (possibly others, too). This drug also caused a former U.S. President to barf all over the Japanese ambassador (if I remember correctly).
I thought the FDA was going to pull this off the market?
kazoo
Posted by Cam W. on August 14, 2001, at 23:19:01
In reply to Re: zaleplon--Cam? » Cam W., posted by kazoo on August 14, 2001, at 23:14:25
Kazoo - Halcion has restrictions on it's prescribing in Canada (or at, Alberta) where physicians are not supposed to write for more than a 7 day supply at a time. More money for docs (sees patient more often; and more money for pharmacy owners. - Cam
Posted by Hattree on August 15, 2001, at 8:26:50
In reply to Re: zaleplon--Cam? » Hattree, posted by Cam W. on August 14, 2001, at 19:45:33
Posted by Daveman on August 16, 2001, at 1:56:37
In reply to Re: Halcion--Cam? » kazoo, posted by Cam W. on August 14, 2001, at 23:19:01
Hey Cam:
Dave here. I've heard of Imovane but it is not available in the United States. Apparently it never went through FDA approval, and now that it is available generically, the costs could not be recouped. Shame, it seems to be pretty effective from what I hear.
My doc will not prescribe Halcion, too many wierd side effects in too many of his patients. It's the only benzo he will not script. For sleep, he overwhelmingly prefers Ambien, which I find to be an effective sleep inducer but too short-acting to last all night.
Dave
Posted by Cam W. on August 16, 2001, at 11:00:11
In reply to Imovane-Cam, posted by Daveman on August 16, 2001, at 1:56:37
Posted by Daveman on August 17, 2001, at 23:14:10
In reply to Re: Imovane- Thanks Daveman [np], posted by Cam W. on August 16, 2001, at 11:00:11
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