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Posted by cramx2 on May 1, 2001, at 20:19:07
i'm feeling apathetic today after taking a 0.5mg of
lorazapam. i'm really suprised by this considering
how angry and anxious i've been in the last few days, i never expected it to make feel so mellow
considering i take them ocassionaly.I was taking paxil before going back on Nardil. The reason i stopped taking Paxil was because it made me feel so apathetic.
i thought for the first time in my adult life i might not get depressed. Who was i kidding. Instead it turned out to be the most frightening depression i've ever been through. I fell down fast and hard, suicidal thoughts, running every second trying to ride the fucker out until the Nardil would kick in, which i thought would never happen. beyond intense. Was it because my feelings were repressed for so long from the Paxil?Now I'm in my own hell, the Nardil helps with my depression, but i'm having a rough time dealing with a ll my issues because i have such low self esteem and all that stuff.
i am really reflecting on how i feel apathetic now
and wonder how tranx and ssri's like paxil have the
potential to make one feel such that way. it's scary
after felling so intense like i was this morning.
can anyone relate
Posted by SalArmy4me on May 2, 2001, at 0:25:56
In reply to Apathy, posted by cramx2 on May 1, 2001, at 20:19:07
It sounds to me like the Nardil isn't helping enough, and perhaps you may need an augmentation agent. See your physician and take care....
Posted by JohnL on May 2, 2001, at 4:25:22
In reply to Apathy, posted by cramx2 on May 1, 2001, at 20:19:07
From what I've seen over the years, the best odds for success in dealing with those apathetic feelings is to focus on dopamine and/or norepinephrine drugs. SSRIs can make apathy worse through an emotional numbing mechanism. On one hand it's good because it numbs away the depression, but on the other hand isn't good because you're nowhere near being recovered. Not only are the depressed feelings numbed, but so are the desired good feelings.
In your shoes I would put Zyprexa, then Risperdal, then Amisulpride at the top of the list. Forget everything else until you've tried them for two to three weeks each. In the unlikely event that none of them work out, then stimulants like Ritalin or Adderall could be next.
And of course my personal favorite is Adrafinil from overseas. After years and years of depression and apathy unresponsive to antidepressants, I feel better than ever in my life with 20mg Prozac, 300mg Adrafinil, and 5mg Zyprexa. None of them alone does much. But combined they are like magic.
John> i'm feeling apathetic today after taking a 0.5mg of
> lorazapam. i'm really suprised by this considering
> how angry and anxious i've been in the last few days, i never expected it to make feel so mellow
> considering i take them ocassionaly.
>
> I was taking paxil before going back on Nardil. The reason i stopped taking Paxil was because it made me feel so apathetic.
> i thought for the first time in my adult life i might not get depressed. Who was i kidding. Instead it turned out to be the most frightening depression i've ever been through. I fell down fast and hard, suicidal thoughts, running every second trying to ride the fucker out until the Nardil would kick in, which i thought would never happen. beyond intense. Was it because my feelings were repressed for so long from the Paxil?
>
> Now I'm in my own hell, the Nardil helps with my depression, but i'm having a rough time dealing with a ll my issues because i have such low self esteem and all that stuff.
>
> i am really reflecting on how i feel apathetic now
> and wonder how tranx and ssri's like paxil have the
> potential to make one feel such that way. it's scary
> after felling so intense like i was this morning.
> can anyone relate
Posted by longsfrng on May 2, 2001, at 12:35:38
In reply to Re: Apathy, posted by JohnL on May 2, 2001, at 4:25:22
John, did the Zyprexa cause you to gain any weight?
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