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Posted by jimmygold70 on March 12, 2001, at 14:18:35
I have heard that testosterone replacement therapy, even for young people (I have normal circulating T) may restore vitality and increase motivation. Is that true ?
My T levels are normal, but I suffer from some fatigue, lowered libido and I have a protruding gut
(although I am thin). Those are symptoms you generally see in people over 50 yearsold, but I am less than half of that in age (-:Is testosterone therapy will be of any value for me ? Can you expect an endocrinologist to really prescribe that ? Should I check anything else but Testos,E2,LH ? (Thyroid is OK)
Jimmy
Posted by steve on March 12, 2001, at 18:02:05
In reply to Testosterone for Vitality ?, posted by jimmygold70 on March 12, 2001, at 14:18:35
> I have heard that testosterone replacement therapy, even for young people (I have normal circulating T) may restore vitality and increase motivation. Is that true ?
>
> My T levels are normal, but I suffer from some fatigue, lowered libido and I have a protruding gut
> (although I am thin). Those are symptoms you generally see in people over 50 yearsold, but I am less than half of that in age (-:
>
> Is testosterone therapy will be of any value for me ? Can you expect an endocrinologist to really prescribe that ? Should I check anything else but Testos,E2,LH ? (Thyroid is OK)
>
> JimmyMy take is that since your levels are normal, you could either go for exercise, or maybe add some testosterone, and then maybe an anti-psychotic if that gets you too wound up, and then maybe an anticholinergic to fight the side-effects of that, perhaps to be followed by something to help you cope with the excessive dilation of your eyes.
It might not be good for your brain, but Eckerd's would be grateful.
Posted by kazoo on March 13, 2001, at 2:31:33
In reply to Testosterone for Vitality ?, posted by jimmygold70 on March 12, 2001, at 14:18:35
> I have heard that testosterone replacement therapy, even for young people (I have normal circulating T) may restore vitality and increase motivation. Is that true ?
>
> My T levels are normal, but I suffer from some fatigue, lowered libido and I have a protruding gut
> (although I am thin). Those are symptoms you generally see in people over 50 yearsold, but I am less than half of that in age (-:
>
> Is testosterone therapy will be of any value for me ? Can you expect an endocrinologist to really prescribe that ? Should I check anything else but Testos,E2,LH ? (Thyroid is OK)
Try DHEA first, which is a pre-cursor to testosterone. This is cheap enough and readily available at any health-food or drug store (25mgs twice a day should do it).Personally, I wouldn't mickey-mouse with testosterone, and if your levels are normal (as you say), you can forget about any doctor giving you any (unless, of course, you link up with a genuine QUACK).
As far as " ... a protruding gut ... you generally see in people over 50 years old ..." goes, AHEM! Lay off the cheese-burgs, pizza and beer, and do sit-ups: simple solutions for seemingly complex questions.
(the) kazoo (has spoken)
Posted by jimmygold70 on March 13, 2001, at 5:44:09
In reply to Re: Testosterone for Vitality ? » jimmygold70, posted by kazoo on March 13, 2001, at 2:31:33
I have already tried DHEA. Useless...
Jimmy
> > I have heard that testosterone replacement therapy, even for young people (I have normal circulating T) may restore vitality and increase motivation. Is that true ?
> >
> > My T levels are normal, but I suffer from some fatigue, lowered libido and I have a protruding gut
> > (although I am thin). Those are symptoms you generally see in people over 50 yearsold, but I am less than half of that in age (-:
> >
> > Is testosterone therapy will be of any value for me ? Can you expect an endocrinologist to really prescribe that ? Should I check anything else but Testos,E2,LH ? (Thyroid is OK)
>
>
> Try DHEA first, which is a pre-cursor to testosterone. This is cheap enough and readily available at any health-food or drug store (25mgs twice a day should do it).
>
> Personally, I wouldn't mickey-mouse with testosterone, and if your levels are normal (as you say), you can forget about any doctor giving you any (unless, of course, you link up with a genuine QUACK).
>
> As far as " ... a protruding gut ... you generally see in people over 50 years old ..." goes, AHEM! Lay off the cheese-burgs, pizza and beer, and do sit-ups: simple solutions for seemingly complex questions.
>
> (the) kazoo (has spoken)
Posted by JahL on March 13, 2001, at 8:30:35
In reply to Re: Testosterone for Vitality ? » jimmygold70, posted by kazoo on March 13, 2001, at 2:31:33
> As far as " ... a protruding gut ... you generally see in people over 50 years old ..." goes, AHEM! Lay off the cheese-burgs, pizza and beer, and do sit-ups: simple solutions for seemingly complex questions.WRONG. Impossible to 'spot-reduce' areas of body-fat. Very old myth. Only general cardio-work (running, cycling etc) can reduce bodyfat (in addition to sensible eating), & then only from the body generally.
Sit-ups will merely firm up muscles that are hidden by excess bodyfat. (I think bodyfat levels need to be below 15% for a flat stomach).
Oh & crunches are far healthier; sit-ups have fallen out of favour since they place too much stress on the hip flexors.
Posted by jimmygold70 on March 13, 2001, at 13:51:44
In reply to Re: Testosterone for Vitality ? » kazoo, posted by JahL on March 13, 2001, at 8:30:35
I agree... For me, on 15% I still have a tummy. I think 14% will do, but now I'm 19.5% fat. Taking that much fat off is losing 25 pounds of weight (not fat). It is easier sayd than done.
Any idea how to get there ? (-:
> > As far as " ... a protruding gut ... you generally see in people over 50 years old ..." goes, AHEM! Lay off the cheese-burgs, pizza and beer, and do sit-ups: simple solutions for seemingly complex questions.
>
> WRONG. Impossible to 'spot-reduce' areas of body-fat. Very old myth. Only general cardio-work (running, cycling etc) can reduce bodyfat (in addition to sensible eating), & then only from the body generally.
>
> Sit-ups will merely firm up muscles that are hidden by excess bodyfat. (I think bodyfat levels need to be below 15% for a flat stomach).
>
> Oh & crunches are far healthier; sit-ups have fallen out of favour since they place too much stress on the hip flexors.
Posted by kazoo on March 13, 2001, at 23:44:10
In reply to Re: Testosterone for Vitality ? » kazoo, posted by JahL on March 13, 2001, at 8:30:35
> WRONG. Impossible to 'spot-reduce' areas of body-fat. Very old myth.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"Very old myths" work for "very old timers."
Posted by JahL on March 14, 2001, at 14:46:35
In reply to Re: Testosterone for Vitality ? » JahL, posted by kazoo on March 13, 2001, at 23:44:10
> > WRONG. Impossible to 'spot-reduce' areas of body-fat. Very old myth.
>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> "Very old myths" work for "very old timers."Consider yourself lucky that yr body defies the basic tenets of physiology. Maybe it works differently for kazoos? (does god 'work' for you?[hi Sanzio])
Jah (young gun).
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