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Posted by felix on November 27, 2000, at 22:45:48
I have been trying drugs illegal and legal all my creative life prone to mood swings.
Medical authorities like to name it as Manic Depression. I see myself as a human.
I have read a lot recently on Effexor. It is a contraversial drug. Does everyone realise what drug companies really are. They seek control, power, consolidation by trading on need. 150 years ago the British Empire had drug traders that caused Opium wars and widespread addiction. Todays traders still do that instead have trade wars like the Lorazepam price hike of 2000% recently.
Still I'd rather deal with them than grown plant dealers of crack and smack. I need a life that is sustainable and so I have sought relieve myself through drug company products.
I had eight horrible years of fight with the addiction cycle of benzodiazapines. Any drug that requires increased intake is bad.
I came across Anti-depressants recently and they are great. As long as you do not do what the drug companies want. They want you to keep taking them.I use Paxil 50mg daily to stabilize me, which I need through dreary stress ridden unpredictability.
It makes me drowsy and unproductive. I tried Effexor and was bloody amazed. A legal drug which had me involved in reality with great results. The 150mg was blowing my brains out. I was dizzy and completely strewn sick.Here is my recipe.
Tale 50mg Paxil daily as a Neurotransmitter stabilizer.
While letting that cook slowly over a couple of weeks. Buy a drug which you can empty out and use the capsules.
Stock up on Effexor XR 150mg, Domperidone 10mg, Good food and Antiacids if stomach is prone to reflux.
Take the Effexor dividing them into 8 equal dozes of 25 mg and empty into the small empty capsules.
While the paxil is having its stabilizing sedating effect. Consider when you have a need to have a clear active head.
Three hours before this take the Domperidone, and eat small meal half hour later. Take effexor with food and take rest for and hour sitting up straight while contents brew.
Ahh great. Its three hours and I feel great.
I am completely happy, alive instead of dreaming awake. My dreams are great. No cravings for tranquillizers. GAD gone. Depression gone. A clear head. I'll run around the block a few times.So why is everyone complaining ?
Norephramine which is the trick of Efffexor is going to produce a great need to keep craving it. It's like crack cocaine.
So try to take Effexor as needed. Drugs are great. Effexor is great. Don't have it every day.
Take a break.
If you live through reality you have to break it into small little bits.
Posted by JohnL on November 28, 2000, at 3:30:48
In reply to Chefs recipe for Effexor., posted by felix on November 27, 2000, at 22:45:48
Interesting post. If I may offer some general comments, here are two that popped into my mind right away:
1) I'm glad you found something that works. But to assume the same thing will work with someone else is fiction. Everybody's chemistry, faults in chemistry, genetics, metabolism, and circumstances are unique.
2) Experimenting with different drugs and different dosing techniques is a good idea in my opinion, as evidenced by your success. Minor changes can yield major results.Drug companies as I see it are no different than any other product-manufacturing company, whether it be widgets, toasters, or whatever. They're just groups of people with interests and careers and their livelihood is determined by how well they meet the needs of the consumer. I've never heard of a drug company wanting someone to take a drug forever. It's usually a doctor that says that, or one's own realization, but not the drug company.
Paxil apparently acts as a neurotransmitter stabilizer with you. With someone else it could do just the opposite.
50mg Paxil? Whew. I know of very few people that could handle that size of a dose. You must be one tough cookie.
If a drug is bullseye right on target for one's own chemistry it could probably be taken as needed. But more often the drug is a bit off target and instead works through domino chain reactions that take time. In those more common situations, it is very important to keep taking the drug continuously. Stopping and restarting often only aggravates the chemistry and makes it worse or resistant in the longrun.
I'm glad you found something you're happy with. If only it worked for everyone. (sigh) But I think the hidden moral of the story in your post is that trying different creative strategies can make the difference between OK and real good.
I often make the same mistake myself, that is, I suggest people try Adrafinil and/or Amisulpride because they work so well with me. Usually though I make those suggestions to others who have had disappointments with more common serotonin drugs or disappointments with drugs that also didn't work for me. But in reality, it's very difficult to assume that what works for you or me will work for someone else. I wish it were that easy.
John
Posted by felix on November 28, 2000, at 20:40:12
In reply to Re: Chefs recipe for Effexor., posted by JohnL on November 28, 2000, at 3:30:48
I've read my recipe. It really looks ridiculous now. I've been using effexor to get high and writing crap.
Guess when my head gets clear it gets empty at the same time.
Posted by S. Howard on November 29, 2000, at 0:17:17
In reply to Re: Chefs recipe for Effexor., posted by felix on November 28, 2000, at 20:40:12
Felix,
LOL, we already knew that.
Welcome,
G.
Posted by stjames on November 29, 2000, at 1:37:32
In reply to Chefs recipe for Effexor., posted by felix on November 27, 2000, at 22:45:48
> I have been trying drugs illegal and legal all my creative life prone to mood swings.
> Medical authorities like to name it as Manic Depression.James here....
AD's by themselves tend to cause bi-polar folks to go manic.
Watch for this. Given what the docs say and your mood swings
(your post was funny but all over the map) bi-polar would not
be out of reason as a dx.james
Posted by JohnL on November 29, 2000, at 4:08:20
In reply to Chefs recipe for Effexor., posted by felix on November 27, 2000, at 22:45:48
Hey, I say silly things all the time. Join the club. :-)Interesting though, you get high on Effexor? I wonder why that happens? As James suggested, is it mania maybe? Controlled mania on demand? I could live with that. Except of course it's a beast that will someday get out of control. Still though, I hate to say it, I wouldn't mind having an antidepressant that made me feel high right away. :-)
Maybe you have a true no-frills low serotonin chemistry. A flood of serotonin shortly after dosing would naturally feel good if that was the case.
Or maybe for some odd reason your body just likes the Effexor molecule.
Who knows. Interesting though. It might deserve respect too though, so be careful.
John
Posted by felix on November 30, 2000, at 14:56:28
In reply to Re: Chefs recipe for Effexor., posted by stjames on November 29, 2000, at 1:37:32
> (your post was funny but all over the map) bi-polar would not
> be out of reason as a dx.
>
> jamesWhat is a DX ?
These sites are great. Fresh insight everytime.
Posted by tdaneen on November 30, 2000, at 17:08:32
In reply to Re: Chefs recipe for Effexor. ST James ??, posted by felix on November 30, 2000, at 14:56:28
>
> What is a DX ?
Diagnosis.
Posted by stjames on November 30, 2000, at 23:53:08
In reply to Re: Chefs recipe for Effexor. ST James ??, posted by felix on November 30, 2000, at 14:56:28
> What is a DX ?
>
> These sites are great. Fresh insight everytime.james here....
diagnosis, which I can never spell.
j
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