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Posted by coral on March 21, 2005, at 18:47:21
What other site? I heard our darlin' Shar was shocked and wanted to find out more....
Coral
Posted by Shar on March 22, 2005, at 1:11:06
In reply to Shar shocked??, posted by coral on March 21, 2005, at 18:47:21
Hi, Coral!
Glad to see you still check in. The shock came from Grohol's Psych Central forums where evidently someone we know (from olden days) is in 'love' with someone I don't know, and planning a life together. And, the one we know just happens to be married to someone I know (as far as I know her) to be a kind and loving person.
It's a big sh*t storm, IMO. If you want details (though limited), you can email me at shar from babble at yahoo dot com with underlines between shar and from. Or, you may have my personal addy; I think I took the 'risk' and gave it to you once.
Or go to http://forums.psychcentral.com and look at the "kudos and affirmations" thread where everybody is celebrating the big event.
It was totally amazing to me. I was not only shocked but my heart totally sank; wife, family, kids...all done with, apparently. I understand how these things happen, but it is always too sad, again IMHO, even if someone ends up happy. These are the things that mark our souls.
And, as for Coral. How is SHE these days??
xoxo
shar
Posted by coral on March 22, 2005, at 14:36:51
In reply to Re: Shar shocked?? » coral, posted by Shar on March 22, 2005, at 1:11:06
Well.........Coral is in the last stages of a relentlessly stressful six months -- all business-related which, of course, leads to a mighty noticeable impact at home. Back on Zoloft, increasing dosages over the last three months, therapy has gone from "improving self" to getting through the next week. And, always, always, that vicious specter of depression laughing in the dark corners. We've crested the worst of the stressors and now, I anxiously await for the anxiety to abate...and ...and...you know the cycle.
I'm fighting distortions, such as "even good news comes with a price tag."
bleech
It sounds like things are improving, although being hectic for you, right now. I'm glad to know that.xoxoxo
Coral
Posted by Phil on March 22, 2005, at 20:34:13
In reply to Re: Shar shocked?? » coral, posted by Shar on March 22, 2005, at 1:11:06
Heard the news. Strange days indeed.
Posted by Shar on March 23, 2005, at 1:34:11
In reply to Re: Shar shocked??, posted by coral on March 22, 2005, at 14:36:51
Wow, that is so eloquent:
"And, always, always, that vicious specter of depression laughing in the dark corners." You should consider writing for a living!
I understand and I'm glad you're 'getting through next week' if that's what it takes. Unrelenting stress is horrible, and I'm glad you have the means to manage it! And, I'm VERY happy to hear that it seems to be downhill now (having crested the worst of it all). whew!
The alleviation of my unremitting stress came with part-time job #2, and measuring out my Klonopin dosages VERY carefully! Panic attacks really bite! Plus, it seems now that my panic attacks and hot flashes are related....ohhhh, great! First one, then the other...
But really, in my part time job #2 reading student essays, I always take a half a Klon before I go, just to get there, and then....a few minutes/hours into it I start flashing. And not Christmas tree lights! I love Christmas tree lights, so that would be totally COOL!
So, we are in this big room of 100 people or so, at tables like a library, and my neighbor L just happens to notice me fanning myself with a sheet of paper and (he being older than me, and married previously) quietly said, "Hot flash?" and I said "Yes, they are so uncomfortable!" (We have to say everything quietly.)
So, now, we're 2 weeks into the project, and he makes sure there is a box of tissues on the table so I can wipe my brow/upper lip/back of the neck/etc. properly. In fact, sometimes, he sort of nudges the box toward me. I have very mixed feelings about it all (the nudging part, mainly...but I think it may be a guy thing, like 'fixing' the problem).
I am not in the least bit embarrassed, and know if I had enough $$ for docs I could get meds to mitigate the hot flashes. And, for L, well, he just has to suffer with me (or keep nudging those tissue boxes!). If I had other options, I'd take them. It's all touching and funny to me. L is a very dear person.
(Well, that was a huge segue! When I get home at 11:00 pm after all those student essays, I am waaaay too verbose!)
Whatever stage you're in, Coral, I am happy to hear it's the final one!
And, entirely happy to hear from you...period!
xoxo
Shar
> Well.........Coral is in the last stages of a relentlessly stressful six months -- all business-related which, of course, leads to a mighty noticeable impact at home. Back on Zoloft, increasing dosages over the last three months, therapy has gone from "improving self" to getting through the next week. And, always, always, that vicious specter of depression laughing in the dark corners. We've crested the worst of the stressors and now, I anxiously await for the anxiety to abate...and ...and...you know the cycle.
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> I'm fighting distortions, such as "even good news comes with a price tag."
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> bleech
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> It sounds like things are improving, although being hectic for you, right now. I'm glad to know that.
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> xoxoxo
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> Coral
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Posted by Shar on March 23, 2005, at 1:36:28
In reply to Re: Shar shocked?? » Shar, posted by Phil on March 22, 2005, at 20:34:13
Wasn't there a song about strange days? Or was that just another hallucination?
xoxo
Shar
Posted by coral on March 24, 2005, at 5:53:57
In reply to Re: Shar shocked?? » coral, posted by Shar on March 23, 2005, at 1:34:11
Boy, can I relate! The depression w/anxiety pushed me into early menopause (early 40's). I was the proverbial tennis ball between panic attacks and hot flashes.
A friend's mother was going through menopause and experienced a hot flash while they were shopping. The mother pulled a TOWEL from her very large purse and began wiping herself off. Her daughter said, "Mom, you carry a towel with you?" Her mother smiled and said, "Just keep living, honey." What a great phrase!
You mentioned measuring your Klonopin dosages very carefully and I know why. However, one thing I've discovered (--- due to the depression, due to age---who knows?) is that I am far more sensitive to meds now. A little goes a lot farther than before. Maybe it's the same w/you?
Aren't experienced men wonderful?
I'm glad to know you're feeling better.
xoxoxo
Coral
Posted by NikkiT2 on March 24, 2005, at 18:31:46
In reply to Re: Shar shocked?? » coral, posted by Shar on March 22, 2005, at 1:11:06
Hmmmmmm...
without even going there I knew exactly who you meant..
Its a shame I am not shocked
nikki
Posted by Shar on March 29, 2005, at 3:25:57
In reply to Re: Shar, posted by coral on March 24, 2005, at 5:53:57
Coral,
You know, I wonder about the relationship between depression/panic/menopause. I don't think menopause is causing depression (because I've been that way since my teens) but I DO wonder if it is worsening it.Yes, L is a great guy. I don't know that he is all that comfortable with my flashing, but it does not seem to bother him terribly. Maybe I should show up with a towel!! lololol! That would be so cool, because the team leader of my temp job is like mid-30's and probably has no idea of what is happening!!
So, there I am reading essays. I'm moved by statements like "Have you ever experienced death? Did that experience change your life?" (this is not about a near-death experience.) Or, "John Doe's life took a 360 degree turn." Or, "In prison you cannot entertain much."
The room alternates between cold and freezing, so I have a sweater with me. Then, a hot flash. So, I'm peeling on and off my sweater constantly, and hit L every time with a sleeve (we're in little chairs) and I say 'Excuse me' and he says 'No way.'
oh, well, I digress. I'm glad things are on the upside for you, and that you're getting through.
xoxo
Shar
> Boy, can I relate! The depression w/anxiety pushed me into early menopause (early 40's). I was the proverbial tennis ball between panic attacks and hot flashes.
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> A friend's mother was going through menopause and experienced a hot flash while they were shopping. The mother pulled a TOWEL from her very large purse and began wiping herself off. Her daughter said, "Mom, you carry a towel with you?" Her mother smiled and said, "Just keep living, honey." What a great phrase!
>
> You mentioned measuring your Klonopin dosages very carefully and I know why. However, one thing I've discovered (--- due to the depression, due to age---who knows?) is that I am far more sensitive to meds now. A little goes a lot farther than before. Maybe it's the same w/you?
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> Aren't experienced men wonderful?
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> I'm glad to know you're feeling better.
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> xoxoxo
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> Coral
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Posted by Shar on March 29, 2005, at 3:27:49
In reply to Re: Shar shocked?? » Shar, posted by NikkiT2 on March 24, 2005, at 18:31:46
Wow,
You have something I don't in terms of radar. I never would have thunk it.I hope you are doing well!
Shar
Posted by allisonm on March 29, 2005, at 8:50:17
In reply to Shar shocked??, posted by coral on March 21, 2005, at 18:47:21
Geez. I've been away from that forum for too long, I guess. I feel sad about the break-up.
alli
Posted by Shar on April 8, 2005, at 1:34:19
In reply to Re: Shar shocked??, posted by allisonm on March 29, 2005, at 8:50:17
And, I don't have any info, and I'm mainly writing this to keep this board alive.
Good to see you, A!
Shar
Posted by allisonm on April 9, 2005, at 19:58:55
In reply to Me, too » allisonm, posted by Shar on April 8, 2005, at 1:34:19
I wonder whether we (the collective "we") are feeling upset because "we" had a picture in our minds of this person and his happy/supportive family. Then, suddenly, out of the blue (it appears to "us") the family is no more and there is another relationship beginning. We feel cheated, foresaken, abandoned, left out of the loop, what have you.
But all sorts of things were happening that we were not aware of, and then the end result sprung up on us, so we feel this resentment.
I know how quickly things can change in a relationship. I wasn't there, or even cognitively present on the board, so I am telling myself that I shouldn't be feeling offended or self-righteous about my feelings. I think I need to look hard and see that I let myself out of the loop and the world turned without me. My bad for not keeping up with the times, I guess.
Plus, I can't throw stones.
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