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Posted by judy1 on May 3, 2004, at 11:38:58
to be ceratin you have the right med and to have it fail again (and again...) is so demoralizing. I can't remember if you have ever written about therapy, but those of us who are so resistant to meds sometimes gain a lot from a good therapist. For me it is acceptance that while I can medicate some symptoms, I won't be the person I was. So I have dedicated myself to learning coping skills and get some degree of satifaction in mastering them. Is this something you can consider? I don't want you to lose hope that there will be a medication that will help you a great deal, there is so much we are learning on a daily basis- but until that day, if you could learn how to focus on the positives in your life (which I know is really hard), I think that may help. forgive me if none of this is useful to you, I care a great deal about you and hate to see you in pain.
take care, judy
Posted by SLS on May 3, 2004, at 12:07:11
In reply to Oh Scott, I'm so sorry, for SLS, posted by judy1 on May 3, 2004, at 11:38:58
> I can't remember if you have ever written about therapy, but those of us who are so resistant to meds sometimes gain a lot from a good therapist.
> forgive me if none of this is useful to you, I care a great deal about you and hate to see you in pain.
Judy, you are so wonderful. Never any need to forgive such caring words.
Fortunately, I participate in an outpatient partial care hospital so that I have some structure in my life and a reason to leave the apartment. There are group therapies and coping-skills education. From time to time I use individual therapy to get me through particularly tough times or to work out issues. I am lucky to have this, and I try to take full advantage of it.
Thanks for caring.
- Scott
Posted by shar on May 3, 2004, at 13:14:58
In reply to Oh Scott, I'm so sorry, for SLS, posted by judy1 on May 3, 2004, at 11:38:58
I'm terribly sorry that your hopes have been dashed. You are right, right, right it is so very demoralizing to have that happen. Is there no augmentation you think might work?
My experience is very similar to yours in terms of having one brief period (about 6 or so months) of feeling 'normal' (about 10 years ago) and marveling that real people feel that way ALL THE TIME! It amazed me; then the drug (Zoloft) pooped out (which I understand it is fairly notorious for doing). It helped me understand what strength it takes for us to just function within the burdensome weight of depression; you are very strong.
You have my sympathies, and my envy in a way--you had a few days respite, and hope. I encourage you to keep on trying, and I'm glad you have a place that gets you out of the house. I think that helps a lot.
Wishing you good luck, and you'll be in my prayers (with the warning that it may do more harm than good...).
Take care,
Shar
Posted by allisonm on May 3, 2004, at 19:59:41
In reply to Ditto what Judy said, posted by shar on May 3, 2004, at 13:14:58
Scott,
I am sorry that you are suffering yet another letdown.I don't think the drugs I take will ever bring me back to 'normal' (whatever that was...I am not sure that I can define it because I am not sure what it is).
I am learning over time that where I put myself (as in living situation, people surrounding me, work, etc.) has a HUGE effect....more than any med. I have recently changed my living and working situation and it is causing a good deal of anxiety that does not feel good or healthy. I am afraid that I may spiral down again.
Am in the process of trying to figure out whether I can endure the introductory period hoping that things will settle down, or whether I should jump ship now (kind of like waiting for the side effects of a new drug to wear off hoping for relief). Oh well.
Again, I am sorry to hear of your trouble and hope that things get better for you. It has been too long a wait.
Allison
Posted by NikkiT2 on May 4, 2004, at 6:28:25
In reply to Oh Scott, I'm so sorry, for SLS, posted by judy1 on May 3, 2004, at 11:38:58
I can feel the depression slipping back in, getting worse.. only the depression, not the suicidal thoughts etc.. just slowly losing interest in everything, stopping caring again..
But I refuse to go back down the meds route.. and, hell, I am alot better than I was, so surley I should be thankful for that??
My therapy has worked great on the anxiety, but has never really touched the depression.. that just seems to work by its own rules.
So where do I go now... stay thankful I'm not actively suicidal..
Sorry.. went off on a tangent.
I'm just feeling so anti meds at the moment.. I watched a show yesterday afternoon (was a holiday here in UK, so rubbish TV all day!!) about the 80's.. mainly music, but when it did the "and in 1987 (could have been 88 or 89 though) they discovered this new mircale anti depressent called prozac that had no side effects" etc etc.. I went nuts..
I guess its whats worse.. taking meds and putitng up with poop out when we start having faith in the med, and shit lads of side effects.. or do we put up with the depression. I know if I was alot worse, I would choose the med route.. I guess I'm in that in between bit where I'm simply depressed...
Sorry.. needed to ramble I think.. and I didn't come up with a single answer for you.. but Judy's post just triggered me off! Sorry!!
Nikki xx
Posted by SLS on May 4, 2004, at 7:00:57
In reply to something I've been pondering today kind of.., posted by NikkiT2 on May 4, 2004, at 6:28:25
> I can feel the depression slipping back in, getting worse.. only the depression, not the suicidal thoughts etc.. just slowly losing interest in everything, stopping caring again.
Do you feel lazy and fatigued? What other differences have you noticed?
> But I refuse to go back down the meds route..
I'm sure you'll know when the time is right to use them again if it becomes necessary. In the meantime, keep monitoring yourself and use all the psychosocial coping tools at your disposal. Maybe keeping a journal would be helpful. It is definitely possible that you won't need medication. Have you ever tried any of the things discussed on the 'alternative' board? Perhaps fish oil would help. The very worst that can happen is that it doesn't, and you are left with healthier coronary arteries. I wish I had a more attractive answer for you. I hope knowing that you don't have to go through this alone is reassuring.
Take care,
Scott
Posted by NikkiT2 on May 4, 2004, at 7:14:56
In reply to Re: something I've been pondering today kind of.., posted by SLS on May 4, 2004, at 7:00:57
hey scott!
I've just been chatting with zenhussy on yahoo about fish oils.. *nods* Gonna head up my health food store in a bit.. once its stopped raining!!
And yeah.. so very fatigued (but not great sleep).. but I guess it could all be connected to some physical problems I'm having right now - low blood pressure being a biggie..
By the way.. I meant to say this before.. You rock.. you are a fantastic person who I am very fortunate to know. I wanted to say this in your "cold" thread.. but being the repressed brit that I am, shows of affection are hard for me to do!! So I'm grabbing the urge now and running with it *laughing*
take care.. and I'll let you all know how the fish oil goes
Nikki xx
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