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Posted by shar on November 30, 2003, at 21:52:47
On a tape I listen to, by a Jungian therapist, she says that dreams about animals are very important. I have had a dream about animals I would characterize as VERY WEIRD, and I'm wondering if any of us are familiar with Jungian dream analysis?
Thanks,
Shar
Posted by Phil on December 1, 2003, at 8:55:37
In reply to Anybody know Jung and dreams?, posted by shar on November 30, 2003, at 21:52:47
Dang shar, Stay away from Stab*ck's, bad word almost. Thanks for the coffee BTW.
Jungle Bells, Jungle Bells, Jungle all the way
Oh, what fun it is to try and diagnose shar today...hey!!!
Posted by judy1 on December 1, 2003, at 9:38:22
In reply to Anybody know Jung and dreams?, posted by shar on November 30, 2003, at 21:52:47
I went to a jungian therp for about a month- very weird guy. ok, yes I seem to remember animals are critical- something about the 'animus' inside us, superegos and something else. obviously, I'm no help and didn't gain much. he wanted me to come every day!, so that ended it for me. are you considering going through it? it's a lot of commitment- years. but I do know someone who swears by it.
good luck! judy
Posted by shar on December 1, 2003, at 18:30:24
In reply to Re: Anybody know Jung and dreams? » shar, posted by judy1 on December 1, 2003, at 9:38:22
P & J,
y'all are good for me! It was a pleasure to have Starbucks with you P! A good time was had by all!And, J! No, I don't think I could stand breaking in another therapist at this point in my life!
I've just had WEIRD animal dreams, and wondered if there might be an interpreter out there.
Just so I don't forget-- there was this ranch-type place where I was (and other folks too) and in the 'stable' was a rat. Well, there was also a white bunny, and the rat had skinned its face-- I remember holding it and its face was just a red mass. Then there was a white horse, and I thought, wow, better get that horse out before the rat skins it! Then, later, the white bunny was laying there with its torso and head separated, and the rat laying there sleeping comfortably on its back with a baby rat curled up sweetly beside it.
Any takers??
Shar
Posted by Rach on December 1, 2003, at 22:24:32
In reply to Re: Anybody know Jung and dreams?, posted by shar on December 1, 2003, at 18:30:24
I'm not big on Jung, but I've always thought that what is most important about interpreting dreams is what the symbols mean to you.
For example, to most people, a snake might represent danger, or being attacked, or something sexual. I have an affinity for snakes, though, so to me a snake is more about sensuality and strength.
What does a rat represent to you? A rabbit? A horse? That's what I'm interested to know. But what a fantastic dream. I love hearing about people's weird & wonderful dreams, because I have so many whacky ones myself.
Here's a hilarious one I had recently
*start dream* I moved back to live on university grounds, my boyfriend came with me and proceeded to bottle his farts in an SPC peach container. My sister added some, too. *end dream*
Apparently I woke up, text messaged that exact wording to my boyfriend, fell back to sleep, and forgot all about it. The next morning I got this message from my boyfriend saying I had discovered his plan for world domination. My sister, boyfriend, and I couldn't stop laughing about it the next day.Does anybody else remember Super Nibor's dream?
x
Posted by allisonm on December 4, 2003, at 18:09:13
In reply to Anybody know Jung and dreams?, posted by shar on November 30, 2003, at 21:52:47
Oh damn.
My pdoc is Jungian and he's great. We've tracked my dreams before. Also, I have read a lot about and by Jung and his daughter, Emma, and by some of his students. BUT...I am at school and all of my Jung books are at home. I won't get back home till early next week.
Yes! Certain things mean certain things in dreams (ooooooooh. can I get any clearer than that?). Water and fish, for example generally represent the subconscious... I can't remember the rest without fear of mixing stuff up.
What's cool is the similarity of people's dreams and the things in them. Jung studied them quite a lot and that fed his theories about the collective unconscious.
One needn't go daily to a Jungian therp. Weekly or every other week has been the norm for me... Or, hey. Get a book. There are some out there that list the meanings of things -- dictionary like. I have a pretty good one(...at HOME).
Re' animus and anima, that has to do not so much with animals and dreams, but with the masculine (animus) and feminine (anima) in all of us. All women have some animus in them (as well as anima), just as all men have anima (and animus). Both are important and essential. Emma Jung wrote about this. But again, my books are at home.
Snakes are important in Jungian stuff too. I think the ones eating their tails in artwork symbolically represent life or the cycle of life. I think...
Anyway, I can look stuff up once I get back home, Shar.
Posted by allisonm on December 10, 2003, at 18:47:15
In reply to Re: Anybody know Jung and dreams?, posted by allisonm on December 4, 2003, at 18:09:13
Shar,
I've looked up what I could find in my books. There are a few things that may give you something to ponder.
From "The Running Press Cyclopedia: Dreams" by David Lohff:
The color White: the positive meaning is purity, wholesomeness, sacred ritual. The negative meaning is emptiness.
Rats: "For most people, dreams of rats reveal concerns of becoming destitute scavengers themselves -- friendless and outcast. Another potential scenario is that the dreamer feels that his or her social security is being gnawed away. In contrast to theft, when all is quickly and dramatically taken, the rats gradually erode their environment."
From: "Dream Dictionary: by Boushahla and Reidel-Geubtner:
"Horse: Tempestuous emotions; sexual energy; the intellect or intelligence; hard-worker. Ancient Germans and Scandinavians believed that horses were able to speak and to predict the future; therefore, horses were sometimes used as oracles. Horse and rider: a message from the higher realms of consciousness. Horse without a saddle: not in control, may be suggesting to 'put on the saddle, get in control'. ..."
"Rabbit: fertility; sexual desire; Easter, or an awakening. White rabbit -- may show the dreamer the gateway to an inner world, as in 'Alice in Wonderland.' "
There also are references on death, but they are rather lengthy and kind of obvious.
My Jung books don't have dictionary-like references for specific things, so it was hard to glean any information.
Let me know if I can look up anything else. If you want to email me, my address is: acm38 at cornell dot edu.
Cheers,
Allison
Posted by shar on December 10, 2003, at 19:35:47
In reply to Jung and dreams?Shar, posted by allisonm on December 10, 2003, at 18:47:15
Wowee! Thank you so much for looking into that! I felt it was meaningful (and a tape I have by a Jungian therapist said animals in dreams are very significant) but did not have a clue as to where to start.
The rat part is so very true, being broke, etc. That evoked a real gut feeling of "yeah, there it is..."
Thanks again, I appreciate it very much!
Shar
Posted by allisonm on December 10, 2003, at 20:54:37
In reply to Re: Jung and dreams?Shar » allisonm, posted by shar on December 10, 2003, at 19:35:47
This was supposed to show up on PB 2000, but showed up on regular PB... Anyway...
You've helped me so many times over the years with your common sense, logic, and unconditional support, that it makes me really really happy that I can help you in some way. Just sorry it took me so long. Again, if there's anything else I can look up, lemme know.
alli
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 11, 2003, at 1:44:15
In reply to Jung and dreams?Shar, posted by allisonm on December 10, 2003, at 18:47:15
> From "The Running Press Cyclopedia: Dreams" by David Lohff...
I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
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Thanks!
Bob
Posted by allisonm on December 11, 2003, at 2:28:05
In reply to Jung and dreams?Shar, posted by allisonm on December 10, 2003, at 18:47:15
Gee whiz, Dr. Bob, don't you just think of everything! I have been away too long, I guess....
OK, here are some books that might be useful in studying dreams...
"Dreams (Lohff)"
"The Dream Dictionary 1,000 Dream Symbols from A to Z"
"Man and His Symbols"
"Memories, Dreams, Reflections"
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 11, 2003, at 19:22:22
In reply to OK, let's try this again..., posted by allisonm on December 11, 2003, at 2:28:05
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