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Posted by gardenergirl on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » Ken Blades, posted by Quint on March 21, 2007, at 6:04:26
> It disappoints me when people try to discourage others from posting on topics they find unnerving with derisive name calling like this.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. Dinah previously asked you to be civil, so now I am blocking you from posting for a week. I've asked Dr. Bob to correct your screen name as per your request, so hopefully that name will be available for you to use when your block is up.
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Posted by FredPotter on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » Ken Blades, posted by Quint on March 21, 2007, at 6:04:26
Q I agree. Ken - please leave him alone. Recently you posted a really useful post. Hey Quint reminds me of Peter Quint standing at the window in Turn of the Screw by Henry James (hrrrooorrrraaaggghhh!)
Fred
Posted by Declan on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » Quint, posted by FredPotter on March 21, 2007, at 18:02:42
This excursion into the polymorphous perverse does not seem to have pleased everybody.
Well, no surprises there.
Posted by elanor roosevelt on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: heterosexuality: a social construct » elanor roosevelt, posted by Quintal on March 20, 2007, at 14:24:03
It's also a statistical fact that most people are heterosexual, for what that's worth.
it is a statistical fact that most people "self define" as heterosexual.
we do not live in a society that encourages exploration of our sexuality. We are supposed to watch more TV and forget any meaningful longings.
Posted by elanor roosevelt on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:50
In reply to Re: heterosexuality: a social construct » kaleidoscope, posted by Quintal on March 20, 2007, at 14:59:01
> You could try tianeptine, or did that fail?
>
> Qi am sorry that tianeptine made me so moody
but i have lots left and i was thinking i would take some the next time my lover is in town.
it kept me "easily aroused."
Posted by FredPotter on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:51
In reply to Re: heterosexuality: a social construct, posted by elanor roosevelt on March 21, 2007, at 21:35:56
what's self-define mean? Is it a Postmodern phrase? If so I want nothing to do it
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:51
In reply to Polymorphous perverse, posted by Declan on March 21, 2007, at 20:13:27
Dec, what is the polymorphous perverse? It sounds kind of cool.
K
Posted by Declan on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:51
In reply to Re: Polymorphous perverse » Declan, posted by kaleidoscope on March 22, 2007, at 17:35:36
Hello Mr K
Polymorphous perverse was Freud's desciption of infant sexuality. (I think).
I've not read much of the man himself.
Declan
Posted by Declan on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:51
In reply to Re: Polymorphous perverse » Declan, posted by kaleidoscope on March 22, 2007, at 17:35:36
And it must mean 'taking many forms' and 'with no regard for established norms'.
Perhaps he meant this about our initial natures?
Posted by elanor roosevelt on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:51
In reply to Re: heterosexuality: a social construct » elanor roosevelt, posted by FredPotter on March 22, 2007, at 0:15:34
> what's self-define mean? Is it a Postmodern phrase? If so I want nothing to do it
by "self defined" i mean that people said "oh, i'm straight" to some question. were likely not asked about their sexual history or fantasies.
Posted by kaleidoscope on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:51
In reply to Re: Polymorphous perverse » kaleidoscope, posted by Declan on March 22, 2007, at 20:13:37
Hello Mr. Declan,
You mean that our initial natures are polymorphous perverse because we have not yet learnt what is socially accepted as normal?
Mr. K
Posted by Declan on March 24, 2007, at 22:50:51
In reply to Re: Polymorphous perverse » Declan, posted by kaleidoscope on March 23, 2007, at 16:24:45
It might have something to do with how we love in our lives. As soon as we are born (and for all I know before) we start to love. The pattern the love takes in early childhood will be recreated in varying formulations in an effort to feel freedom and enjoyment in sexual relations later in life. That's my version, as good as I can think at the moment.
It probably has bugger all to do with Freud.> Hello Mr. Declan,
>
> You mean that our initial natures are polymorphous perverse because we have not yet learnt what is socially accepted as normal?
>
> Mr. K
>
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on March 24, 2007, at 23:00:37
In reply to Re: Where did this post go off on such a tangent? » Quint, posted by FredPotter on March 21, 2007, at 18:02:42
> Hey Quint reminds me of Peter Quint standing at the window in Turn of the Screw by Henry James (hrrrooorrrraaaggghhh!)
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person.
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Thanks,
Bob
Posted by Gabbi-2 on March 25, 2007, at 16:43:28
In reply to Re: please be civil » FredPotter, posted by Dr. Bob on March 24, 2007, at 23:00:37
semen tasted like beer, a lot fewer men would be homophobic.
Posted by sdb on March 25, 2007, at 17:27:09
In reply to well, My simple theory is that if.. » Dr. Bob, posted by Gabbi-2 on March 25, 2007, at 16:43:28
In art, for example music, there are many genius said or known to have or had a special sexual orientation.
Sviatoslav Richter was homosexual, Nathan Milstein was said to be too. Glenn Gould was attributed as an asexual but that's not for sure in contrast to his drug addiction.
Sviatoslav Richter playing Schumann's Toccatahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Au_TBsyRAA
(Richter seems to have a personal glasses remover before a difficult passage...)
Glenn Gould plays Bachhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB76jxBq_gQ
(The dog seems to be tired of music...:-)
Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2
Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEFedswEX0
(very nice spectatrice / spectateur)sdb
Posted by Gabbi-2 on March 25, 2007, at 17:55:20
In reply to special orientation of artists (nice videos), posted by sdb on March 25, 2007, at 17:27:09
Posted by Gabbi-2 on March 25, 2007, at 18:02:56
In reply to special orientation of artists (nice videos), posted by sdb on March 25, 2007, at 17:27:09
It's true, perhaps why some religions honour homosexuality.
It's sad though, that maligned groups have at times gained acceptance because of what they "given" to society (hence my beer comment) Is it really morality? Or are people just trying use the immoral club to bash something they find personally distasteful?
One should be able to be a talentless loser and still be accepted
Posted by sdb on March 25, 2007, at 18:36:03
In reply to Re: special orientation of artists (nice videos) » sdb, posted by Gabbi-2 on March 25, 2007, at 18:02:56
Dear Gabbi-2
> It's true, perhaps why some religions honour homosexuality.
That's interesting. Which religions do honor homosexuality? I suppose the Vatican does not.
> It's sad though, that maligned groups have at times gained acceptance because of what they "given" to society (hence my beer comment)
Yes, I think it's sad. Even if such groups gain acceptance at times it is possible that they must suffer. Sviatoslav Richter had episodes of depression. He had (unfortunately) an unbelievable memory and said in his eighties that his life was nothing for him. In the only official interview in his last days he said: "I don't like myself". Richter was somehow captivated due to his genius and political circumstances (controlled by Soviet agents and much more)
In contrast Nathan Milstein had many musical companions probably with a similar orientation. He said: "It doesn't make sense to think too much about life sometimes".
Gould suffered anxiety and had episodes of depression. But this maybe not due to a special orientation.
Is it really morality? Or are people just trying use the immoral club to bash something they find personally distasteful?
> One should be able to be a talentless loser and still be accepted
>It is sad to say but it will hardly ever be possible.
warm regards
sdb
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 25, 2007, at 19:30:38
In reply to well, My simple theory is that if.. » Dr. Bob, posted by Gabbi-2 on March 25, 2007, at 16:43:28
Two men were fishing. They found a bottle floating on the water, retrieved it, rubbed it, and a genie popped out. "I'll grant each of you one wish," said the genie. The first man wished for a new fishing boat, all decked out, complete with outboard, the whole nine yards. Poof! New boat! The second man wished for the lake to be turned into beer. Poof! The lake is now made of beer. "You dummy!" exclaimed the first man. "Now we'll have to pee in the boat!"
Posted by fayeroe on March 25, 2007, at 21:14:14
In reply to speaking of beer, posted by Larry Hoover on March 25, 2007, at 19:30:38
hahahahahahaha
Posted by Phil on March 26, 2007, at 15:26:53
In reply to speaking of beer, posted by Larry Hoover on March 25, 2007, at 19:30:38
Posted by sdb on March 26, 2007, at 17:20:42
In reply to speaking of beer, posted by Larry Hoover on March 25, 2007, at 19:30:38
> Two men were fishing. They found a bottle floating on the water, retrieved it, rubbed it, and a genie popped out. "I'll grant each of you one wish," said the genie. The first man wished for a new fishing boat, all decked out, complete with outboard, the whole nine yards. Poof! New boat! The second man wished for the lake to be turned into beer. Poof! The lake is now made of beer. "You dummy!" exclaimed the first man. "Now we'll have to pee in the boat!"
>Great fantasy.
You can sing or tell jokes to yourself (and if necessary up the Valium) and to animals in a zoo other than to the naked ape animal in the human zoo.
It is possible.
Glenn Gould on animals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57kR6RsV2iA
warm regards
sdb
Posted by sdb on March 27, 2007, at 17:42:00
In reply to special orientation of artists (nice videos), posted by sdb on March 25, 2007, at 17:27:09
> In art, for example music, there are many genius said or known to have or had a special sexual orientation.
>
> Sviatoslav Richter was homosexual, Nathan Milstein was said to be too. Glenn Gould was attributed as an asexual but that's not for sure in contrast to his drug addiction.
>
>
> Sviatoslav Richter playing Schumann's Toccata
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Au_TBsyRAA
>
> (Richter seems to have a personal glasses remover before a difficult passage...)
>
>
> Glenn Gould plays Bach
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB76jxBq_gQ
>
> (The dog seems to be tired of music...:-)
> Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2
>
>
> Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEFedswEX0
>
>
> (very nice spectatrice / spectateur)
>
> sdbI did not know that there is so much stuff on the internet, I have never seen or heard about before. Schumann was a bipolar sufferer, Beethoven had various problems but that is far away.
Beside that Richter was homosexual, a deep thinker, an unfortunately depressive especially in the later years, he was a great painter and devoted his life to music nothing else.
archived stuff:
Richter plays Schumann - Faschingsschwank aus Wien
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVKT_VbN0Ko
Beethoven - Sonata No. 32 in C minor, 1st movt - Richter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulvJU85U_gA
Bach - Concerto no 1 in re minor - 1st mov - Richter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k97KeRiRxxg
Richter plays Chopin Étude Op.25 No.11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fym7EOV5f1A
Richter Plays Debussy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1NHoeYfXHI
I'll bookmark this for me.
sdb
Posted by sdb on March 31, 2007, at 18:01:22
In reply to Re: special orientation of artists (nice videos), posted by sdb on March 27, 2007, at 17:42:00
> > In art, for example music, there are many genius said or known to have or had a special sexual orientation.
> >
> > Sviatoslav Richter was homosexual, Nathan Milstein was said to be too. Glenn Gould was attributed as an asexual but that's not for sure in contrast to his drug addiction.
> >
> >
> > Sviatoslav Richter playing Schumann's Toccata
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Au_TBsyRAA
> >
> > (Richter seems to have a personal glasses remover before a difficult passage...)
> >
> >
> > Glenn Gould plays Bach
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB76jxBq_gQ
> >
> > (The dog seems to be tired of music...:-)
> > Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2
> >
> >
> > Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEFedswEX0
> >
> >
> > (very nice spectatrice / spectateur)
> >
> > sdb
>
> I did not know that there is so much stuff on the internet, I have never seen or heard about before. Schumann was a bipolar sufferer, Beethoven had various problems but that is far away.
>
> Beside that Richter was homosexual, a deep thinker, an unfortunately depressive especially in the later years, he was a great painter and devoted his life to music nothing else.
>
> archived stuff:
>
> Richter plays Schumann - Faschingsschwank aus Wien
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVKT_VbN0Ko
>
> Beethoven - Sonata No. 32 in C minor, 1st movt - Richter
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulvJU85U_gA
>
> Bach - Concerto no 1 in re minor - 1st mov - Richter
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k97KeRiRxxg
>
> Richter plays Chopin Étude Op.25 No.11
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fym7EOV5f1A
>
> Richter Plays Debussy
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1NHoeYfXHI
>
> I'll bookmark this for me.
>
> sdbI am not entirely sure have heard other things but his father was killed in Russia because he was German, yes:
http://music.barnesandnoble.com/features/interview.asp?NID=130686&z=y
never seen this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTt7bqEkJC0
(take care tsunami waves)
Posted by sdb on July 9, 2007, at 22:27:44
In reply to special orientation of artists (nice videos) II, posted by sdb on March 31, 2007, at 18:01:22
> > > In art, for example music, there are many genius said or known to have or had a special sexual orientation.
> > >
> > > Sviatoslav Richter was homosexual, Nathan Milstein was said to be too. Glenn Gould was attributed as an asexual but that's not for sure in contrast to his drug addiction.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sviatoslav Richter playing Schumann's Toccata
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Au_TBsyRAA
> > >
> > > (Richter seems to have a personal glasses remover before a difficult passage...)
> > >
> > >
> > > Glenn Gould plays Bach
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB76jxBq_gQ
> > >
> > > (The dog seems to be tired of music...:-)
> > > Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2
> > >
> > >
> > > Bach BWV 1004 Chaconne Nathan Milstein Violin - Part 2
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEFedswEX0
> > >
> > >
> > > (very nice spectatrice / spectateur)
> > >
> > > sdb
> >
> > I did not know that there is so much stuff on the internet, I have never seen or heard about before. Schumann was a bipolar sufferer, Beethoven had various problems but that is far away.
> >
> > Beside that Richter was homosexual, a deep thinker, an unfortunately depressive especially in the later years, he was a great painter and devoted his life to music nothing else.
> >
> > archived stuff:
> >
> > Richter plays Schumann - Faschingsschwank aus Wien
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVKT_VbN0Ko
> >
> > Beethoven - Sonata No. 32 in C minor, 1st movt - Richter
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulvJU85U_gA
> >
> > Bach - Concerto no 1 in re minor - 1st mov - Richter
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k97KeRiRxxg
> >
> > Richter plays Chopin Étude Op.25 No.11
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fym7EOV5f1A
> >
> > Richter Plays Debussy
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1NHoeYfXHI
> >
> > I'll bookmark this for me.
> >
> > sdb
>
> I am not entirely sure have heard other things but his father was killed in Russia because he was German, yes:
>
> http://music.barnesandnoble.com/features/interview.asp?NID=130686&z=y
>
> never seen this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTt7bqEkJC0
>
> (take care tsunami waves)galerie d'images:
http://www.richtercompetition.com/en_richter32.html:
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