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Posted by Sad Panda on November 6, 2004, at 1:04:50
Has everyone seen the new map of North America floating around in the internet? :)
Posted by Sad Panda on November 6, 2004, at 1:15:32
In reply to New map of North America, posted by Sad Panda on November 6, 2004, at 1:04:50
Posted by Jai Narayan on November 6, 2004, at 9:19:35
In reply to Alternate Map., posted by Sad Panda on November 6, 2004, at 1:15:32
thanks for finding us these maps. This idea has great meaning at this time.
I guess we are trying to find a way to deal.
jai
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 6, 2004, at 12:03:16
In reply to New map of North America, posted by Sad Panda on November 6, 2004, at 1:04:50
> Has everyone seen the new map of North America floating around in the internet? :)
>
> http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/302142.shtmlI like to think of maps like this validating the Canadian identity. Canada is a different place, but I think there's a healthy dose of respect shown here.
Now, if we could only do something about the long cold winters.....
Lar
Posted by verne on November 6, 2004, at 14:19:56
In reply to Re: New map of North America » Sad Panda, posted by Larry Hoover on November 6, 2004, at 12:03:16
Remember about 10-15 years ago when Northern California wanted to create a separate state from Southern California? I think they even voted on it.
Anyway, about that same time, I remember listening to a political pundit on tv that predicted the Pacific Northwest would eventually join Canada due in part to protest the way their water is diverted to California.
I've been thinking about moving to Canada because I've always loved winter and I want to get away from the Bible Belt. But I'm wondering whether americans would truly be welcome in Canada. And too I'm concerned about the cost of living.
I hope to escape Iowa in about 3 years. Besides Canada, I'm also thinking about New England, Colorado, or Michigan's Upper Pennisula. I need to be near water - especially a lake. Mountains are nice too. I grew up in the Northwest near the Canadian border so I'm used to cold winters with lots of snow.
verne
Posted by jakeman on November 6, 2004, at 16:17:18
In reply to Alternate Map., posted by Sad Panda on November 6, 2004, at 1:15:32
> http://mena.typepad.com/dollarshort/2004/11/canada_20.html
Great map. One problem though, it appears to show Austin as the capital of the United States of Texas, but Austin voted heavily against Bush.
Posted by Colleen D. on November 6, 2004, at 17:39:30
In reply to Re: New map of North America, posted by verne on November 6, 2004, at 14:19:56
Verne,
I went to college in Marquette, MI - in the upper peninsula. It's absolutely beautiful there on Lake Superior!
Colleen
Posted by Sad Panda on November 7, 2004, at 9:01:22
In reply to Re: Alternate Map. » Sad Panda, posted by jakeman on November 6, 2004, at 16:17:18
> > http://mena.typepad.com/dollarshort/2004/11/canada_20.html
>
> Great map. One problem though, it appears to show Austin as the capital of the United States of Texas, but Austin voted heavily against Bush.
>Maybe they wanted to vote him out of office so he would spend more quality time with them in Texas? :)
Posted by zeugma on November 7, 2004, at 13:30:52
In reply to Re: Alternate Map. » jakeman, posted by Sad Panda on November 7, 2004, at 9:01:22
I have always wanted to live in canada. It seems I do now :)
-z
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 7, 2004, at 13:44:25
In reply to Re: Alternate Map. » Sad Panda, posted by zeugma on November 7, 2004, at 13:30:52
> I have always wanted to live in canada. It seems I do now :)
>
> -zhttp://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20041026/msgs/411787.html
Posted by jakeman on November 7, 2004, at 13:54:35
In reply to Re: Alternate Map. » jakeman, posted by Sad Panda on November 7, 2004, at 9:01:22
> > > http://mena.typepad.com/dollarshort/2004/11/canada_20.html
> >
> > Great map. One problem though, it appears to show Austin as the capital of the United States of Texas, but Austin voted heavily against Bush.
> >
>
> Maybe they wanted to vote him out of office so he would spend more quality time with them in Texas? :)
>Maybe more quality time with all the protesters who always seem to show up when he visits :-)
Actually the Bushes are not even from Texas...they are Northeasterners who moved to Texas. George W. was born in Conn. and George Sr. was born in Kerry's home state of Massachusetts.
Posted by AuntieMel on November 7, 2004, at 15:38:30
In reply to Re: Alternate Map. » jakeman, posted by Sad Panda on November 7, 2004, at 9:01:22
He wasn't born here, wasn't educated (using the word loosely) here, and it's a put-on accent.
I'm a born-and-bred Texan and proud of it, but Canada is looking pretty good to me, too. Or maybe Perth.
Posted by AuntieMel on November 7, 2004, at 15:39:30
In reply to Re: Alternate Map. » Sad Panda, posted by jakeman on November 6, 2004, at 16:17:18
Looks more like Dallas to me.
Posted by KaraS on November 7, 2004, at 16:20:09
In reply to Re: Please leave Texas out of it :( » Sad Panda, posted by AuntieMel on November 7, 2004, at 15:38:30
> He wasn't born here, wasn't educated (using the word loosely) here, and it's a put-on accent.
>
> I'm a born-and-bred Texan and proud of it, but Canada is looking pretty good to me, too. Or maybe Perth.
Mel,I'm confused. I thought you were a Bush supporter?
K
Posted by Sad Panda on November 8, 2004, at 8:57:32
In reply to Re: Please leave Texas out of it :( » Sad Panda, posted by AuntieMel on November 7, 2004, at 15:38:30
> He wasn't born here, wasn't educated (using the word loosely) here, and it's a put-on accent.
>
> I'm a born-and-bred Texan and proud of it, but Canada is looking pretty good to me, too. Or maybe Perth.
>
>Sorry AuntieMel, Of course Bush doesn't represent what an average Texan or American is like & I hope that you don't think that my prime minister is anything like a typical Australian! :)
Cheers,
Paul.
Posted by Sad Panda on November 8, 2004, at 9:07:53
In reply to Re: Please leave Texas out of it :( » AuntieMel, posted by KaraS on November 7, 2004, at 16:20:09
> Canada is looking pretty good to me, too. Or maybe Perth.
>
>Perth is getting pretty dry, a 20% drop in rainfall in the last decade means they are using desalinization plants to produced drink water. Brisbane would be the pick for best city to live in Australia.
Cheers,
Paul.
Posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:27:32
In reply to Re: Please leave Texas out of it :( » AuntieMel, posted by KaraS on November 7, 2004, at 16:20:09
No, when I asked people to vote for him it was to keep him OUT of Texas. It was supposed to be a joke.
Posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:32:49
In reply to Perth, posted by Sad Panda on November 8, 2004, at 9:07:53
What does Brisbane have that Perth doesn't? Besides water?
I spent a few days in Perth on business a few years ago. I had gone to China, and my boss said 'as long as you're in the neighborhood could you go the Perth office? Ha! Neighborhood!
Anyway, I just fell in love with Perth. The scenery was much like Southern CA. without the crowds, and the folks there seemed a lot like Texans in attitude, just with a funny accent. I came home and told hubby I'd picked our retirement spot.
I didn't realize you were an aussie. Remind me to tell you about my stay in Kings Cross on the way back.....
Posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:34:35
In reply to Sorry! :( » AuntieMel, posted by Sad Panda on November 8, 2004, at 8:57:32
All of what I said was true, but I was really just trying you yank your chain.
Is it possible to get Uggs there? It's nearly impossible here.....
Posted by Larry Hoover on November 8, 2004, at 16:40:11
In reply to Perth, posted by Sad Panda on November 8, 2004, at 9:07:53
My counsellor suggested this to me, today....
If I wanted to live in a theocracy, I'd have moved to Iran.
Lar
Posted by mair on November 8, 2004, at 17:10:09
In reply to New bumpersticker?, posted by Larry Hoover on November 8, 2004, at 16:40:11
My sentiments precisely!
Posted by Sad Panda on November 8, 2004, at 20:21:12
In reply to Re: Sorry! - no need » Sad Panda, posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:34:35
> All of what I said was true, but I was really just trying you yank your chain.
>Thanks! I haven't had my chain yanked for along time. :)
> Is it possible to get Uggs there? It's nearly impossible here.....
>Uggs? You are going to have to translate this from Texan to English for me. :P
Cheers,
Paul.
Posted by Sad Panda on November 8, 2004, at 20:38:15
In reply to Re: Perth » Sad Panda, posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:32:49
> What does Brisbane have that Perth doesn't? Besides water?
>Location! Brisbane is centrally located to all the places you would want to see. Perth is surrounded by desert.
> I spent a few days in Perth on business a few years ago. I had gone to China, and my boss said 'as long as you're in the neighborhood could you go the Perth office? Ha! Neighborhood!
>
> Anyway, I just fell in love with Perth. The scenery was much like Southern CA. without the crowds, and the folks there seemed a lot like Texans in attitude, just with a funny accent. I came home and told hubby I'd picked our retirement spot.
>That would pretty much sum up Perth, like SoCal but without the luxury of water. Australians often get compared with Texans.
> I didn't realize you were an aussie. Remind me to tell you about my stay in Kings Cross on the way back.....
>I can imagine! Kings Cross is not a place I would suggest that tourists should see. :)
Cheers,
Paul.
Posted by KaraS on November 9, 2004, at 0:03:45
In reply to Re: Please leave Texas out of it :( » KaraS, posted by AuntieMel on November 8, 2004, at 10:27:32
> No, when I asked people to vote for him it was to keep him OUT of Texas. It was supposed to be a joke.
I see. I hadn't read the whole thread... (Well, on the bright side, he won't be in Texas full-time for at least 4 more years.)K
Posted by AuntieMel on November 9, 2004, at 12:12:18
In reply to Re: Perth » AuntieMel, posted by Sad Panda on November 8, 2004, at 20:38:15
I know you can't reply here (but if you want my email is auntiemel at gmail dotcom) but hopefully you're still reading.
Uggs are shoes. Australian sheepskin shoes. Normally I'm not much of a shoe person (I usually have about 4 pair - one pair for each different need) but Uggs are supposed to be very, very comfortable. They have the sheep fleece on the inside, with fleece insoles and are designed to be worn barefoot. I'll spend money for comfort!
It sounds like Perth is still the choice for me. Brisbane looks a bit *too* crowded and *too* easily travelled to. It could just be the stress of working in the city, but right now remote sounds very good.
Dry? evem more like So. Cal. It wouldn't be green without irrigation - and is often involved in water disputes with the states up river. I think I could deal with that. Getting used to the maggot spitting blow flies might be a different story.....
What sounds good to me is a place up in the hills - preferably on a couple of acres - with a view of the ocean. Ahhh, I can dream...
Kings Cross was an accident (imagine the look on the cabby's face when I told him to drive me there!) but it was a real hoot when I realized where I was. I didn't get to sample much of the night life 'cause I had an early plane out, but I did waunder around and people watch.
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