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Posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 8:05:36
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 7:45:12
It's nice though, isn't it, how much the Christchurch mayoral fund profited from the situation.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 8:06:03
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 8:05:36
and now these people have taken over our medical records system. i see...
Posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 8:14:16
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 7:45:12
and most of our start-ups fail. nz is the easiest place in the world in which to do business... which does just mean that there are people doing things here that would be illegal most of everywhere else... and the reason they would be illegal most of everywhere else is because they are bad in the bigger picture scheme of things.
it's all just data collection. apply for a scholarship or a job or a grant and it's all just data collection. if you have a good idea then you hand the idea over... and that's basically that.
and i guess they just tell themselves 'it isn't any worse than how things would be for the people'. 'if we weren't treating them awfully, their governments would be'. so... why not - if you can get away with it?
it isn't New Zealanders who are ruining things for everyone. it's people in the name of New Zealanders. it was like how our passport started to be used for terrorist activity or whatever so now our passports only last a few years before we need new ones... the amount of money our government must be spending on printing new money all the time and on printing new passports all the time and on... rubbish... an endless succession of offshore printed plastic non-compostible rubbish.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 10:09:12
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 8:14:16
actually, that was maybe unfair of me. they are forcing the laws to develop. that's the only way they ever will.
i do understand things aren't black or white and it can be hard to see / assess what is going on sometimes...
i think our last one was held to account. eventually...
Posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 15:00:40
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 10:09:12
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSpOjj4YD8c
Homer Simpson and the Stonecutter song.
Posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:11:31
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 7:45:12
>I didn't get in to the whole Lord of the Rings thing.
A couple of guesses why not. It's a boyzone story. The characterisation is pretty awful. And you are too young to have that feeling of it being almost too late.
But then again, I would bet a lot of money that we are in for a full dose of fascism. It feels almost too late to me.
I think Peter Theil's company is Palantir, but I might be wrong.
Posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:14:07
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar » alexandra_k, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 7:57:06
>Queenstown (around there) is even worse,
Really? I've only been once, and that was almost 20 years ago. We went skiing with the kids. It seemed lovely then.
Posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:17:07
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 8:05:36
>It's nice though, isn't it, how much the Christchurch mayoral fund profited from the situation.
Geez, I'm completely ignorant. Something to do with the earthquake?
Posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:20:15
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 8:06:03
>and now these people have taken over our medical records system. i see...
We had this myhealth thingo you could opt out of. I thought it was a good idea in principle, but opted out for complete lack of confidence.
Anyway the man organising it was from Britain where the same type of thing sold off information, as is the pattern these days.
Posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:21:47
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 8:14:16
>an endless succession of offshore printed plastic non-compostible rubbish.
Made in Australia?
Posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:32:43
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:21:47
On the general them of the decline of the west (which I should read in a good translation), antisemitism always seemed such an effort to me. Racism I understood perfectly well. Some people are differently coloured, and if we must hate someone, why not them. But antisemitism with its huge scope from Rothschields To Freud to Marx to Social Democracy and you name it seemed metaphysical (I know nothing about philosophy) and not even believed by those who believed it. As Hitler said once 'I know race does not really exist. Any farmer can tell you that. But it is really useful' or words to that effect. One Nazi film said that if jews were green it would make it easier to pick them out.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:23:22
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:32:43
I thought our money was printed in Canada, actually, but I don't really know.
I see that the UK NHS is having a bit of an overhaul in association with being instructed to reduce expenditure. I don't suppose that is likely to be good.
I will learn things... Try and position myself to spam applications. Try not to get stuck in something non-advancing. I see...
Apparently Queenstown has became a place for people to buy a property incase they need to bail on the developed world. You can buy citizenship for 5 million or 10 million (NZD) without much of an actual residency requirement, at all.
What is our legal system going to do? Jail you? Lolz. Worst case you'll get home detention.
Apparently there is quite the divide between the superwealthy foreigners who aren't really here much and the locals who find themselves becoming increasingly poverty stricken...
I don't know. It's all stories and stories and stories...
I don't know.
Anyway... I feel somewhat better that Australia isn't doing the testing for Medicine entry anymore. I'm not sure that I should have much of anymore faith in the UK, however.
Anyway... It is vaguely reassuring, actually. I suppose. Maybe because of the higher quality documentation where they manage not to sound like complete and utter cowboys.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:25:46
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:23:22
Though, of course, if they are happy to train me, then I take it all back.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:32:45
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:23:22
my power bill was better this week (well, $70 something rather than $130 something). which is expensive, i think, but not 'oh my God what if it gets worse???' freaking out. so i'm feeling less like they're trying to freeze me to death. which is good.
i am disillusioned with the consumer peoples, though.
but they do do some really good work on some things. a helpful place to start, yeah. i'm just really cross things got so very bad here under their watch.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:54:06
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:32:45
I don't get a sense of whether these people are helping thing develop because they have good intent or whether they are just doing whatever they want because they can...
I don't suppose it matters, overly much. I mean, it does matter. But it's not something I can assess.
I saw something about blood product research. That's right... We have a single donor system for blood and blood products that people volunteer because they are led to believe that their donation will go to people who are injured or needing it for a medical procedure. They believe that if they become injured or needing it for a medical procedure that blood or blood products will likely be available to them... There is a opting in of a public health system that the donors believe in...
And if some or part of that is being diverted to people who are paying to have injections of young people's blood...
There's something awfully wrong about that.
I wonder how much it cost for that to happen, in New Zealand.
The sum would be a national disgrace, I'm sure.
And that... Is why we can't / won't train anybody to do much in the way of anything.
For the good of us all.
I mean... You inject someone with a substance that diluted their blood and you find that there is less of whatever it was that was in their blood before. That's supposed to be a marker of improved health.
It would be like if you added half a glass of water to your whiskey shot and you discovered the alcohol content of the resultant liquid was reduced!
Or you give someone a hand transplant from a person 1/2 their age and then take cells from the hand and declare there is evidence you have rolled back the clock on the person aging!
I mean...
I'm missing something -- right?
That isn't the gist of the research -- is it?
Shakes her head slowly and feels *embarrassed* for (supposedly) medical research.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 5:21:43
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:54:06
https://canadiancoinnews.com/new-zealands-brighter-money-printed-canada/
yes, it is money printed in Canada.
it's plastic money, which makes it a good currency for boat people to invest in (I hope that is not racist).
it has security features that probably make it very detectable at airports.
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2018, at 8:25:34
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:23:22
>Apparently there is quite the divide between the superwealthy foreigners who aren't really here much
That's something to thank them for.
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2018, at 8:30:35
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:54:06
>And if some or part of that is being diverted to people who are paying to have injections of young people's blood...
I've heard of it. You only need to see the energy of 3yo and combine that with the amoralism and desire to commodify of the wealthy. They do something like this in China? Young people executed in prisons?
Posted by sigismund on October 30, 2018, at 8:36:28
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on October 30, 2018, at 8:30:35
There has been rumour that the invasion force mounted on the southern US border is an expression of Hebrew values.
You know that line from Shakespeare 'All the world's a stage'? It isn't really about entertainment. On reflection it felt full of menace. For instance, how do you find truth in all this nonsense?
Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:41:13
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 4:54:06
>And if some or part of that is being diverted to people who are paying to have injections of young people's blood...
This isn't stem cell research?
I feel queasy. And frightened.
Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:47:53
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 29, 2018, at 7:45:12
> And why would he want to buy citizenship here, for? Is he wanted for war crimes, back home? None of it makes any sense... Best for me to not to waste too much time on it, I think...
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> I didn't get in to the whole Lord of the Rings thing. I think it was because our last year Primary Teacher decided to read it to us for 20 minutes every day after lunch so the kids could have a snooze... It was snooze-worthy... I didn't get engrossed in it in that environment. It never came alive for me.
>Type in 'Peter Theil and the end of the world' and all sorts of articles pop up. (I just made that phrase up as a starting search.)
It's Doomsday. For the super rich.
He supported Trump btw.
Posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:58:32
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by sigismund on October 29, 2018, at 20:32:43
> On the general them of the decline of the west (which I should read in a good translation), antisemitism always seemed such an effort to me. Racism I understood perfectly well. Some people are differently coloured, and if we must hate someone, why not them. But antisemitism with its huge scope from Rothschields To Freud to Marx to Social Democracy and you name it seemed metaphysical (I know nothing about philosophy) and not even believed by those who believed it. As Hitler said once 'I know race does not really exist. Any farmer can tell you that. But it is really useful' or words to that effect. One Nazi film said that if jews were green it would make it easier to pick them out.
I've tried puzzling this out. It's weird, and I don't get it. Maybe it's simply been passed down for so long it's become mythic.
What is this about a Zionist influence on the militarization at our southern border? Seriously?
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 19:41:03
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:58:32
Thanks guys, I didn't know about any of this. It helps make sense of quite a lot... I mean, it's also a kind of con-munications by people who have quite a lot invested in what is con-municated about them, but it is... Affirming, in some way, of how here is this weird blend of being so very far behind / isolated in so many respects, but there also being elements of cutting edge technology...
Apparently we were the first country to have EFTPOS rolled out and people aren't charged bank fees for EFTPOS transactions, typically. The technology means every single purchase (stick of gum, bottle of milk, cup of coffee) appears on your bank statement. Not itemised (but supermarket cards that you need to use for significant price discounts) will have that information).
We fairly much are cashless.
And then the hole in the walls close up. Well, first the bank closes up but leaves the hole in the wall (the ATM). But then the hole in the wall goes away.
And then your login doesn't work...
We're not quite there at that last bit, yet.
Here is a place from which to co-ordinate the end of the world... I suspect we will get bombed, yet. And it will likely be because we're holing up one of these psychopaths. Yeah. They'll have to bomb Wanaka to do it.
It's a country that spawned Rawls...
He's right that there isn't freedom in this country.
I had a friend who wrote a Masters thesis on how there isn't democracy when the people are not educated.
My understanding is that the idea is something along the lines of a society where people vote on the politicians on the basis of their policies with respect ot how the policies serve their (legitimate) ends.
(The ends of the sadist to be sadistic is not a legitimate end).
He wants to say that we aren't free because we are burdened with student debt and because so many of us are on welfare.
I want to say that we aren't free because we are uneducated and because so many of us are on welfare.
Our people aren't learning the things they need to make their way in life. To make a way in life. To contribute meaningfully to life. Welfare... The means to education in this country is what is lacking.
And this is because Universities (the world over) have adopted a corporate model where they see students as cash machines to feed the CEO / chancellor and all their cronies. They don't care whether or not students learn anything or not. They don't care whether or not courses are overcrowded and underfunded. They only care about trying to extract enough money out of them so they can save up for their very own bolt-hole which they will need when the students decide it's time to rise up against them.
He's clearly a smart man. A clever man. But it doesn't look like he is much of a good man.
On the other hand, he's succeeded in bring these issues to our attention.
I have been saying for a while that our start-up company thing is a farce. People aren't free to start-up a company, at all.
In order to start-up a company you need to appply to have a start-up company. That involves your handing over all your information to people who have the money to enact whatever it is that you have been working on.
At that point you are delayed indefinately with paper work and so on...
Meanwhile the people with the money get it done (and profit from it) and you never even get any kinds of shares in the thing at all.
That is the supposed alternative to student debt?
That's no alternative.
You could apply for a job... But most of the job adverts are not for actual jobs. It's just data collection, again.
It's a juvenile strategy.
It's a young male thing, particularly.
It's why animals chase the young males away from the herd. They are forced out and away because they create too much mischief and trouble back home.
The young males band together...
Gain in strength...
Eventually come back and try and take place as elite males there.
All kinds of animals have that social structure.
And some people choose to behave like animals. I mean, why not -- if you can get away with it??
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 20:01:08
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 19:41:03
It's the infrastructure, too.
It's like they said, the lawns are kept manicured, and so on.
So individual people are labouring to keep the houses / properties in order. Who are the individual people who are labouring to keep the houses / properties in order?
Are they local people, or are they imported?
I'm trying to figure how you would get local people to do that who would get on with the job and not snoop and gossip. I mean, I understand that you could set up security cameras about the place and fire the people who snoop and gossip, but I don't think we have the infrastrure to support that. I think you would fire one only to hire another for a constant stream of people who snoop and gossip...
So who keeps the properties in order?
?
How do the Hollywood celebreties do it, generally? You hire some kind of manager to manage your support staff... Train them up... I see an infinite regress problem here of how you get people who will do the job, already.
Are they other imports?
I guess one of my friends fairly much always has people staying because she prefers that. More people around. So there's never any bother having people house-sit when she wants to go away. And she gets to know the people real well in virtue of living with them fairly indefinitely. If you have that sort of personality then it's not so much of a problem.
I expect there is a particular service that you ring and they are used to dealing with / arranging such things. It could be good work for people. Light cleaning / household work. Especially if you manage to get people who have been subjugated into thiking that if they don't do that then they can clean public toilets or public toilets in hospitals or whatever.
Maybe they can donate blood to you, too.
Posted by alexandra_k on October 30, 2018, at 20:17:35
In reply to Re: The Witch King of Angmar, posted by beckett2 on October 30, 2018, at 14:58:32
Do you think anyone would be charged with fraud if there was a round 2 of the same thing in New Zealand?
Ignorance and inability to do statistical tests is different from intentionally misleading or falsifying - yes?
She was a front, clearly. Someone... Put her up to it, I'd say.
10 years of no more being a front... I wonder what retirement plan that got her...
They got blood...
Often with research projects / experiments the real work is not disclosed. It's fairly clear (in the way that New Zealand is a caricature) that whatever the person *says* they are doing (which is why their project got the money) is not the same as what it is that is potentially getting someone rich from their project.
Often it's just about their collecting samples of whatever. It's becoming more up-front that the funding is conditional on them sending the samples to a particlar laboratory or whatever (for them to run who knows what tests on).
Obtaining biological tissue samples is a big deal. It is generally... Obtaining foetuses that were aborted. Obtaining foreskins from circumscised infants. Obtaining tumor samples (or other samples obtained during operations)... People will pay for these things... There is a market for them...
I'm curious about how that works in the US. People are paid to donate blood? That is then privately owned?
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