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Posted by morganator on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:41
In reply to Re: Sheesh, posted by Nadezda on December 14, 2009, at 23:43:04
Really has she been that bad or are people here super sensitive?
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
In reply to Re: Apologies, posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:38
> What up with the babblemail you sent me? Are you trying to stir things up, or, or you just very lonely and need some attention??????
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> RocketMan> Well not to be a trouble maker,but instead simply speak my situation,phillipa has EMAILED me initially and so on,i have answered being a nice person,and she then eith released the conversations of those emails in posts,or used them AGANIST ME in debated posts.
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> willyeee> this was blown out of proportion.
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> PhillipaPlease don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused. Even if you feel hurt yourself.
But please don't take this personally, either, this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're bad people, and I'm sorry if this hurts you.
Denise, thanks for apologizing.
Justyourself54 and RocketMan, thanks for trying to de-escalate this later.
More information about posting policies and tips on alternative ways to express yourself, including a link to a nice post by Dinah on I-statements, are in the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
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> please refrain from any contact with myself, either by babble mail, or here on the posting site.
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> RocketMan> I just truly believe that there is much more to be gained by dealing with these issues ourselves, and I mean as a community of equals, than by entrusting what is "good" and/or "right" (I am not good with words sorry) to some "administrator" and/or his "deputies". I think this is a chance to try out our self reliance without the possible repercussions that could come in the "real world".
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> I do think if one does not want to receive Babble form a particular person I should be able to exclude them.
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> okyI support self-reliance. You can choose not to open a post or an email. But other posters may feel hurt if you ask them not to post to you. But as a last resort, there's a procedure if you feel harassed here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#harassed
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> Dr. Bob's policies should not allow for this type of behavior!
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> johnj1> Dr. Bob can be of help if babblemail was involved. If email was involved contacting a person's ISP's abuse department might be an option.
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> 2nd xylophone> I am not implying anyone is lying it is just difficult to know exactly what is really going on and why and what the intent was.
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> okyRight, I can confirm whether babblemail is genuine and block someone from sending them:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#babblemail
But with email, the appropriate authority is the sender's email provider.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 3:55:52
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
Dr Bob,
You have my name stated my name >oky twice with statements following that I did not make and I fail to understand how I was uncivil. If anything I jumped through multiple hoops to ensure I was not, to include an apology when I unintentionally worded my post not clarifying "I felt"...
Would you please clarify?Who is "Denise" in this thread and where is the opology?
oky
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 4:11:04
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 3:55:52
Please clarify as my name was not in the "please be civil" post subjet line yet I was referred to twice even after I apologised.
oky
Posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2009, at 5:41:36
In reply to Re: please be civil » Dr. Bob, posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 3:55:52
Denise's post where her apology is:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20091103/msgs/929330.html
Dr. Bob wasn't calling you uncivil. Just quoting your comments in discussing asking people not to post to others on Babble,is all. He just included everything in one big post. He confuses me sometimes with that as well :-)
Your words are in your post here:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20091103/msgs/929326.html
Hope this helps clarify, even if I am just some ***former*** "deputy" ;-)
Posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2009, at 5:42:56
In reply to Re: please be civil » okydoky, posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2009, at 5:41:36
Posted by 2nd xylophone on December 15, 2009, at 6:52:12
In reply to Phillipa, posted by RocketMan on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:26
Posted by okydoky on December 15, 2009, at 6:58:09
In reply to Re: please be civil » okydoky, posted by 10derHeart on December 15, 2009, at 5:41:36
Posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2009, at 10:36:44
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
Dr. Bob confused so If you're asking me to be civil I apologize. Phillipa
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 13:44:30
In reply to Re: Confused, posted by Phillipa on December 15, 2009, at 10:36:44
Posted by willyeee on December 15, 2009, at 17:17:21
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
Oh my god,now im offended and hurt,i post something i felt upset me,i did not lie in anyway,information i gave in confidentialiy was put on the board and i spoke my mind on it,i post advice here every chance i get never with any shred of uncivility,i mind my buisness,i post only to post i know of such as maois rather then ssris due to the fact im partial to them and dont want to give off a negative vibe,im at a loss for words im found to be uncivil,i responded to a thread that was going,as any other thread,if the thread was becomming too much,i dont think de escaltion would be needed,but rather quicker response by adminstation to remove it,since when is it uncivil to see a thread and include your post,if i wass adding "fuel to a fire" then the thread should not have been there in the first place.
Im truly disappointed.
Posted by twinleaf on December 15, 2009, at 21:18:50
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
In addition to the warnings about being civil, I hope a deeper look is being taken at this situation. I have no way of knowing whether the allegations of forwarding personal babble-mails and e-mails are valid or not, but if they are, administrative focus on a solution to that would be important if forum members are going to feel safe using these ways of communicating.
Posted by emilyp on December 15, 2009, at 23:06:12
In reply to Re: In Phillipa's defense, posted by willyeee on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:38
You may be comfortable with others posting information about your mental health. But many others may not be. This comment relates to the broader issue (not just the incidents that are being debated on this thread). Individuals with mental health issues have different views about how public they want to be and those differences should be respected. I don't think you can assume everyone has the same views about 'being public' as you do. In many ways, it is not too different than the issue of whether a gay/lesbian person is out - there are great differences.
Posted by BayLeaf on December 17, 2009, at 6:04:58
In reply to Re: please be civil » RocketMan » willyeee » Phillipa, posted by Dr. Bob on December 15, 2009, at 3:18:38
Bob - aren't bmails supposed to follow all civility rules too?
I thought that was a policy somewhere?
bay
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2009, at 8:11:25
In reply to Re: please be civil, clarification request » Dr. Bob, posted by BayLeaf on December 17, 2009, at 6:04:58
> Bob - aren't bmails supposed to follow all civility rules too?
Right, I can confirm whether babblemail is genuine and block someone from sending them:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#babblemail
Bob
Posted by BayLeaf on December 17, 2009, at 18:04:29
In reply to Re: clarification request, posted by Dr. Bob on December 17, 2009, at 8:11:25
So if we think a poster is violating the civility rules via bmail, we can email you and you might block them from being able to send bmail to anyone. Got it.
Bay
Posted by Maxime on December 17, 2009, at 21:23:45
In reply to Phillipa, posted by RocketMan on December 15, 2009, at 2:18:26
Phillipa, I also didn't like it when you sent me a babble mail saying that you knew what I looked like. Apparently another member had shared a pic with you. I didn't feel harrassed, just extremely annoyed.
My life is private with the exception of what I post on PB.
Posted by Phillipa on December 17, 2009, at 21:45:04
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by Maxime on December 17, 2009, at 21:23:45
Maxie hence why I told you so you would know. And no one has seen it. I've received many babblers pics over the years from numerous posters. Then on Social we've shared pics many times. Do you visit social? I think a few weeks about someone was posting pics of their hair asking for advise. It's common on social. I've also posted my pic there several times. Phillipa
Posted by johnj1 on December 18, 2009, at 14:15:48
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by Maxime on December 17, 2009, at 21:23:45
That is spooky. I don't like that these things are happening around here and nothing is being done to address this type of behavior.
Posted by Phillipa on December 18, 2009, at 14:19:44
In reply to Re: Phillipa » Maxime, posted by johnj1 on December 18, 2009, at 14:15:48
I don't like it either. I wonder what happened at the meeting last night anyone go? Phillipa
Posted by johnj1 on December 19, 2009, at 10:29:29
In reply to Re: Phillipa » johnj1, posted by Phillipa on December 18, 2009, at 14:19:44
What? Considering this is about what you did I don't understand what you are trying to say. Are you pretending you didn't do things that people are uncomfortable about?
Phillipa, I would appreciate that you respect the babblemail we traded over a year ago where we agreed not to respond to each others direct postings.
Posted by Maxime on December 19, 2009, at 22:22:11
In reply to Re: Phillipa » johnj1, posted by Phillipa on December 18, 2009, at 14:19:44
You say you don't like it but you are sending babblemails with comments about pictures etc. It's not right. I want my identity at PB to remain at PB. I hate when people know things about me. That's why I would never give my real name out for people to add to Facebook.
Posted by Phillipa on December 19, 2009, at 23:52:48
In reply to Re: Phillipa » Phillipa, posted by Maxime on December 19, 2009, at 22:22:11
Maxie I like facebook as don't discuss meds or personal issues just joking and having fun with family, friends, and neighbors. We all have our pics on there it's fun. Babble is separate. Different. I didn't send your pic to me your friend did and I told you about it is that bad? Would you rather not know? Just asking as I can keep secrets. Phillipa
Posted by polarbear206 on December 20, 2009, at 14:29:44
In reply to Re: Phillipa » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on December 19, 2009, at 23:52:48
I think Phillipa has an obsession and addiction to posting on babble. I just don't understand how someone can post over 100 times in a couple of days, and that's just on the MED board and not including the other boards. Something is very wrong here. She should be talking more with a therapist and getting help for her problems. Call me mean, but that's the way I see it.
Posted by Angela2 on December 20, 2009, at 16:24:58
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by polarbear206 on December 20, 2009, at 14:29:44
Although I see the complete validity in the other posters' concerns and upset about some things that went on between them and Phillipa, I think what you said was uncalled for polarbear. So what if she posts 100 times a day? This isn't a free for all.
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