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Posted by Dr. Bob on May 20, 2007, at 7:33:09
In reply to Re: fixing things, posted by Dr. Bob on May 16, 2007, at 12:22:35
> I've updated the posting software to prevent that from happening again, and I'll turn it back on after people have had some time to change their passwords.
OK, we should be back up!
FYI, I changed some passwords myself, so if you can't post, please email me at dr-bob@uchicago.edu.
> The issue with the Babblechat software was that it wasn't checking the current Babble password, but that should be fixed now, too.
I've also cleared the Babblechat registration information, so those of you who want to chat will now need to re-register (for chat).
Finally, if Babblemail doesn't work for you, try typing in your current password. What gets filled in automatically may be an old password.
Now where were we? :-)
Bob
Posted by Fallsfall on May 20, 2007, at 7:50:32
In reply to Re: fixed things, posted by Dr. Bob on May 20, 2007, at 7:33:09
Thanks, Dr. Bob, for your handling of this. You kept us up to date on what was going on - that was comforting. I'm so glad you figured out how they got in so that you could plug that hole. There may be other holes, that others might exploit at some point, but at least this particular person can't do the same thing again. I am glad you reported this to the FBI. This was a crime, and we were hurt by this.
I hope that Babble can be peaceful and (not too) quiet! Well, maybe that wouldn't be Babble... I hope that Babble can still be Babble. I kind of like it that way.
Falls.
Posted by NikkiT2 on May 20, 2007, at 8:42:51
In reply to Re: fixed things, posted by Dr. Bob on May 20, 2007, at 7:33:09
Thankyou Dr Bob for all your work over this - I know such issues aren't easy to deal with in a decent manner.
Being kept up to date with what was happening was so important, and I'm so pleased you did that.
Thankyou again,
Nikki
Posted by gardenergirl on May 20, 2007, at 9:03:16
In reply to Re: fixed things, posted by NikkiT2 on May 20, 2007, at 8:42:51
It was very helpful to have the updates and reassurance. It's great to have posting back on, too!
Thanks,
gg
Posted by Dinah on May 20, 2007, at 9:55:31
In reply to I agree, posted by gardenergirl on May 20, 2007, at 9:03:16
You did well under in a trying situation, Dr. Bob.
Thank you.
Posted by Klavot on May 20, 2007, at 10:22:09
In reply to Me too, posted by Dinah on May 20, 2007, at 9:55:31
Don't you just want to jump and dance and scream and shout because PB is back! This is the best thing that has happened this past week. All sites get hacked sooner or later, even the servers of government agencies, so let's just get over it and move on.
Klavot
Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2007, at 10:33:41
In reply to Re: Me too, posted by Klavot on May 20, 2007, at 10:22:09
Is it real? Babble is back? Thanks Dr. Bob. Love Phillipa
Posted by scratchpad on May 20, 2007, at 13:50:01
In reply to Re: fixed things, posted by Dr. Bob on May 20, 2007, at 7:33:09
For everything.
sp
Posted by Squiggles on May 20, 2007, at 14:43:07
In reply to Thank you Dr Bob, posted by scratchpad on May 20, 2007, at 13:50:01
You've been hacked before i think? But this
was a particularly nasty one. It was considerate
of you to send out "protect your password" messages. I'm glad things are working, and hope
it doesn't happen again. A friend of mine said that using Linux might protect you more than using Microsoft.Congrats to you and your helpers!
Squiggles
Posted by MidnightBlue on May 20, 2007, at 16:33:59
In reply to Re: fixed things, posted by Dr. Bob on May 20, 2007, at 7:33:09
Dr. Bob,
Thank you so much for fixing things and keeping us informed. That was really important to me. Thank you also for answering e-mail.
MidnightBlue
Posted by Racer on May 20, 2007, at 17:37:17
In reply to Re: fixed things » Dr. Bob, posted by MidnightBlue on May 20, 2007, at 16:33:59
It was a crime, and I would like to personally thank you, publicly, for reporting this to the FBI. I appreciate that very much, since it was my personal information which was posted.
Thank you, for keeping us informed, and for reporting this to the proper authorities, and for your concern about changing passwords, etc. I, too, hope Babble returns to -- well, to BabbleNormal, I guess.
Posted by Squiggles on May 20, 2007, at 17:44:33
In reply to Thank you for reporting this, Dr Bob, posted by Racer on May 20, 2007, at 17:37:17
So, what does the FBI do with the report?
And what are the consequences of hacking
this site? Does anyone know *who* did the
hacking?Sorry, I am not a geek, not even a geekling;
Squiggles
Posted by Honore on May 20, 2007, at 19:38:24
In reply to Re: Thank you for reporting this, Dr Bob, posted by Squiggles on May 20, 2007, at 17:44:33
Thanks for the updates and for keeping the chat open. Both make a great difference to me.
And for the change in photograph. It did communicate your presence, dismay, and concern for us, in a real way.
I'm also very happy to have my name back. Thanks for that, too. I''m just so happy that everything is back to normal-- even if normal is, as always, complicated and unstraightforward.
Honore
Posted by sunnydays on May 20, 2007, at 19:39:32
In reply to Thank you Dr Bob, posted by scratchpad on May 20, 2007, at 13:50:01
Thank you so much Dr. Bob! I never realized how comfortable I feel at Babble and how much I really enjoy posting here until it was gone for a while. Also realized I'm not as dependent on it as I feared. :) But it's good to have it back... if nothing else it gives me something to do when I'm bored, like right now. :) Thanks for taking care of this!
sunnydays
Posted by Lou PIlder on May 20, 2007, at 20:30:42
In reply to Re: Thank you for reporting this, Dr Bob, posted by Squiggles on May 20, 2007, at 17:44:33
> So, what does the FBI do with the report?
> And what are the consequences of hacking
> this site? Does anyone know *who* did the
> hacking?
>
> Sorry, I am not a geek, not even a geekling;
>
> SquigglesFriends,
It is written here,[...Does anyone know *who* did the hacking?...]
My feeling here is that if criteria are used to say that a person is of interest to be the hacker, that those criteria could be overiden by that the person falling under those criteria could also be of the nature that they would not do that. Could not someone that is not a likely person to be of interest, be the person also?
So I will not speculate here on who this could be. I think that the authorities could find the person.
Lou
Posted by Toph on May 20, 2007, at 20:48:05
In reply to Lou's response to aspects of Sqiggle's post, posted by Lou PIlder on May 20, 2007, at 20:30:42
> My feeling here is that if criteria are used to say that a person is of interest to be the hacker, that those criteria could be overiden by that the person falling under those criteria could also be of the nature that they would not do that.
>Hi Lou,
Trying to follow your logic here... are you saying that if Bob or the FBI uses some sort of probile to nab the hacker, could this profile be fallible? If that is what you are asking I say yes and hope some other technology definitively identifies the m*therfucker.
Toph
Posted by Squiggles on May 20, 2007, at 20:55:17
In reply to Re: Lou's response to aspects of Sqiggle's post, posted by Toph on May 20, 2007, at 20:48:05
> Hi Lou,
> Trying to follow your logic here... are you saying that if Bob or the FBI uses some sort of probile to nab the hacker, could this profile be fallible? If that is what you are asking I say yes and hope some other technology definitively identifies the m*therfucker.
> Toph
Quick, i need another benzo: are you saying
that the FBI is fallible? C'est pas possible!Squiggles
Posted by Lou PIlder on May 20, 2007, at 20:58:53
In reply to Re: Lou's response to aspects of Sqiggle's post, posted by Toph on May 20, 2007, at 20:48:05
> > My feeling here is that if criteria are used to say that a person is of interest to be the hacker, that those criteria could be overiden by that the person falling under those criteria could also be of the nature that they would not do that.
> >
>
> Hi Lou,
> Trying to follow your logic here... are you saying that if Bob or the FBI uses some sort of probile to nab the hacker, could this profile be fallible? If that is what you are asking I say yes and hope some other technology definitively identifies the m*therfucker.
> TophToph,
You wrote,[...{profile} be fallible?...other technology...]
You have stated that in a good way. What could be the other technology?
Lou
Lou
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 21, 2007, at 8:31:01
In reply to Re: Thank you Dr Bob, posted by Squiggles on May 20, 2007, at 14:43:07
> I'm glad things are working, and hope
> it doesn't happen again.Me, too!
> A friend of mine said that using Linux might protect you more than using Microsoft.
Who uses Microsoft? :-)
Bob
Posted by LadyBug on May 21, 2007, at 11:13:11
In reply to Re: Thank you Dr Bob, posted by Squiggles on May 20, 2007, at 14:43:07
Thanks, Dr. Bob I've missed the site a lot!
Posted by Meri-Tuuli on May 21, 2007, at 12:17:40
In reply to Re: glad things are working, posted by Dr. Bob on May 21, 2007, at 8:31:01
Nah, Bob prob uses UNIX on his servers -- I think most establishments do these days anyway apparently (I'm no computer geek although alot of my friends are!)
And Dr Bob has a mac anyway so....
Anyway Linux was developed by a fellow countryman, ie he is from Finland!
And its opensource so I'm not entirely sure how that will protect you from an attack being that anyone can see and edit the code. Although I'm told its very good, no viruses blah blah but if Bob has a mac anyway, I doubt he uses Linux.....
Opesource software, is apparently the future!
Kind regards
Meri
PS and no, I'm not the hacker!
Posted by Squiggles on May 21, 2007, at 12:23:03
In reply to Re: glad things are working, posted by Meri-Tuuli on May 21, 2007, at 12:17:40
OK - i'll pass that on.
Posted by Klavot on May 21, 2007, at 12:32:29
In reply to Re: glad things are working, posted by Meri-Tuuli on May 21, 2007, at 12:17:40
> And its opensource so I'm not entirely sure how that will protect you from an attack being that anyone can see and edit the code.
That's the beauty of it. Anyone can examine the code with the result that thousands of very smart people from around the world point out possible security weaknesses in the operating system, and these are then corrected. Only the official kernel developers edit the release code, so hackers cannot slip in malignant code, although you are free to change the kernel code running on your own machine, if you are so inclined.
I run Linux on my one computer and it is wonderful not to have to run antivirus software on it, which tends to drain system resources.
Klavot
Posted by Racer on May 21, 2007, at 12:43:15
In reply to Re: glad things are working, posted by Meri-Tuuli on May 21, 2007, at 12:17:40
>
> Anyway Linux was developed by a fellow countryman, ie he is from Finland!
>The real reason to like Linus Thorvald, though, isn't just that he's a Finn. It's because he chose the penguin as a symbol for Linux because he was attacked by Fairy Penguins in Oz! Apparently he was so stunned by these tiny penguins attacking him that he decided they had to be the symbol of his tiny O/S.
I just love that image. Thought I'd share some of the trivia that clogs my brain at any given moment...
Posted by Squiggles on May 21, 2007, at 12:55:23
In reply to But the real reason to like him is... » Meri-Tuuli, posted by Racer on May 21, 2007, at 12:43:15
Let's see, if i can remember my friend's books-- O'Reilly-- have the most wonderful covers of eccentric animals.
Is it just my impression, or is Scandinavia disproportionately full of geeks in comparison
to other countries? Maybe the darkness? I was looking at position possibilities and for the really high IT[?] jobs, there are many of them in those countries.Squiggles
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