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Posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2007, at 14:39:46
In reply to well, that's bullfuckinshit » Dr. Bob, posted by karen_kay on January 22, 2007, at 14:00:58
> well, that's bullf[*]ckinsh[*]t
I'm sure justyourlaugh appreciates your support, but please don't use language that could offend others.
> i still like you mr bob. promise :)
Thanks, and this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you're a bad person, either.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please first see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#enforceFollow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
PS: According to the current system:
previous block: 2 weeks
period of time since previous block: 124 weeks
uncivil toward a particular individual or group: no
particularly uncivil: no
different type of incivility: no
clearly didn't understand PBC and made effort to reply: no
provoked: no
uncivil in multiple posts at same time: no
already archived: noIf we take 124 weeks, divide by 10, and round, that's a reduction of 12 weeks. If we apply that to your previous block, that takes you back to 0. And if we go from there, that's 1 week.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 17:35:13
In reply to Re: what was uncivil, posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2007, at 14:39:42
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 17:36:52
In reply to Lou's request for clarification to Jeroen » Jeroen, posted by Lou Pilder on January 20, 2007, at 9:39:09
I would like to know this too
> Jeroen,
> You wrote,[...DR. (Hsiung) has filed a complaint at the |police|..accused me for insulting >me<..I never insulted this person...]
> Could you clarify, by email if you like, how {insulting} a person becomes a criminal matter with the police to be interrogated?
> Lou
> lpilder_1188@fuse.net
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 17:39:35
In reply to Re: note from doctor, posted by Phillipa on January 20, 2007, at 14:04:58
> Jeroen yes when is the interrogation going to happen and in which country? How's the seroquel going? Love Phillipa
I am very confused and am sorry to be so dense but why did you ask about this posters medication on Admin? Could you please explain so I can GET why this was germaine to the issue? Thanks ahead.
Posted by notfred on January 22, 2007, at 18:03:25
In reply to Re: note from doctor » Phillipa, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 17:39:35
This thread started on the main board and after Phillipa asked if Jeroen was doing OK with his meds
it was redirected here.
Posted by Phillipa on January 22, 2007, at 18:27:11
In reply to Re: note from doctor, posted by notfred on January 22, 2007, at 18:03:25
Thank-you so much for explaining what happened. Hope this clears up the matter. Love Phillipa
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 20:49:24
In reply to Re: note from doctor » notfred, posted by Phillipa on January 22, 2007, at 18:27:11
Thank you both. When you read it all JUST from here it is very confusing ..well..at least to me Thanks ;-)
> Thank-you so much for explaining what happened. Hope this clears up the matter. Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on January 22, 2007, at 21:10:48
In reply to Re: note from doctor » Phillipa, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 20:49:24
Oh I imagine it does. I just hope he's okay. Love Phillipa
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 22:47:50
In reply to Re: note from doctor » Fallen4MyT, posted by Phillipa on January 22, 2007, at 21:10:48
> Oh I imagine it does. I just hope he's okay. Love Phillipa
Well I thought I understood but now I am not sure. I clicked the first post on this thread and I do not see that it was re-directed. I could understand that more then this..I am totally lost.
Posted by NikkiT2 on January 23, 2007, at 0:40:46
In reply to Re: what was uncivil, posted by Dr. Bob on January 22, 2007, at 14:39:42
What, saying that you can over rule a deputy's decision could make people feel accused?
I don't see it.. Please explain again.
How can someone saying you can over rule a deputy make someone feel accused?
A dense Nikki
Posted by laima on January 23, 2007, at 8:46:26
In reply to Re: note from doctor » Phillipa, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 22:47:50
If you go to the main meds board, you'll see the re-direction there. There must have been five or six posts before it was all moved here to Admin.>
> Well I thought I understood but now I am not sure. I clicked the first post on this thread and I do not see that it was re-directed. I could understand that more then this..I am totally lost.
>
Posted by gardenergirl on January 23, 2007, at 10:29:34
In reply to Re: what was uncivil » Dr. Bob, posted by NikkiT2 on January 23, 2007, at 0:40:46
> What, saying that you can over rule a deputy's decision could make people feel accused?
>
> I don't see it.. Please explain again.
>
> How can someone saying you can over rule a deputy make someone feel accused?I don't think you're dense. Dr. Bob quoting that particular part of 10derheart's post does make things confusing. If you look at the sequence of posts:
From 10derheart's post:
*>>if jeroen feels comfortable with you posting personal information about him on this board?..> Since I couldn't find any place this happened, I'm going to ask you to please not exaggerate, and also not to post things that may lead others to feel accused.
> And as a reminder, if you think there is a problem with a post and want Dr. Bob or the deputies to review it, please remember to use the 'Notify the administrators' button at the bottom of every posting window, instead of commenting on the boards.
> Follow-ups regarding these issues should be directed to Admin and should of course be civil. Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.
Dr. Bob posted this, quoting the part of 10derheart's post that references his oversight, perhaps as an explanation for why he was also acting on this:
>> Dr. Bob has oversight over deputy decisions, and he may choose a different action.> You were asked just recently to be civil, so I'm going to block you from posting for a week.
And then to answer your question, he posted this:
> As 10derHeart said, it might have led others (namely, Phillipa) to feel accused, and if there's a problem with a post, we ask that others use the 'Notify the administrators' button instead of commenting on the boards.I think the "it" in this post refers to the part quoted in 10derheart's PBC post (see above *)
Definitely confusing, especially with all the intervening posts.
Hope this helps.
namaste
gg
Posted by 10derHeart on January 23, 2007, at 13:49:08
In reply to Re: note from doctor » Phillipa, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 22, 2007, at 22:47:50
Do you see this at the top of the post:
[ reposted on January 20, 2007, at 14:25:46 ]
That tells you it was moved on that day/time, and then if you click on the word "reposted," that will take you back to the original location, in this case the meds (main) board.
I think that'll help :-)
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 23, 2007, at 18:53:46
In reply to Re: how to tell a thread has been redirected » Fallen4MyT, posted by 10derHeart on January 23, 2007, at 13:49:08
Thanks 10derheart...I did do that and saw where it began but that still left something of an issue for me. I be very confused on something and if I catch you in chat I will ask
> Do you see this at the top of the post:
>
> [ reposted on January 20, 2007, at 14:25:46 ]
>
> That tells you it was moved on that day/time, and then if you click on the word "reposted," that will take you back to the original location, in this case the meds (main) board.
>
> I think that'll help :-)
Posted by Phillipa on January 23, 2007, at 19:16:46
In reply to Re: how to tell a thread has been redirected » 10derHeart, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 23, 2007, at 18:53:46
Also if you scroll up the meds board you will catch a thread to Jeroen where he talks about how seroquel is the only med to help his geodon eye blinking. This issue with him and the blinking has been going on for over a year. He frequently mentions in that thread as well as others that seroquel is his med of choice hope that helps. Love Phillipa
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 23, 2007, at 20:06:27
In reply to Re: how to tell a thread has been redirected » Fallen4MyT, posted by Phillipa on January 23, 2007, at 19:16:46
((Phillipa thank you,,I didn't want to say anything more and make anyone feel uncomfortable so thanks for helping me sort where that came from :)
> Also if you scroll up the meds board you will catch a thread to Jeroen where he talks about how seroquel is the only med to help his geodon eye blinking. This issue with him and the blinking has been going on for over a year. He frequently mentions in that thread as well as others that seroquel is his med of choice hope that helps. Love Phillipa
Posted by NikkiT2 on January 24, 2007, at 5:30:09
In reply to Re: what was uncivil » NikkiT2, posted by gardenergirl on January 23, 2007, at 10:29:34
Sorry, still not understanding!!
And, when did 10derHeart become a duputy? I don't recall seeing an announcement on that?
but then, the whole Dr Bob ad deputy thing is getting wierd.. I was PBC'd by a new deputy a while ago, and emailed dr bob to ask where the new deputy announcement was, but he said that they weren't "working" yet so no announcement had as yet been made. But said deputy told me Dr Bob had *told* her to PBC me.
I'm lost and confused..
I thought we were going to vote on new deputy's? Was that decision changed?
Sorry.. gone off on a tangent. I think alot of my confusion has come about from smply not knowing who is a deputy anymore. Atleast on other boards they tend to have something next to their name signifying they are one, here its becoming a guessing game!
N x
Posted by 10derHeart on January 24, 2007, at 18:44:35
In reply to Re: Please be civil » 10derHeart, posted by justyourlaugh on January 22, 2007, at 12:48:36
>>please do not say i was exaggerating..
jyl,
I know you can't reply right now, but I wanted to respond to this because it's been bothering me.
Good point, and I apologize. While I stand by my PBC overall (for the other reasons stated), I shouldn't have included that in my post. After the fact, and after some more thought and another POV from Dr. Bob, I realized what I had done. My thinking was if *I* didn't notice anything "personal" in the post(s) you were talking about, then bam - that constitutes exaggerating, which is listed in the FAQ as something that can in some cases be considered uncivil. I imposed my standard of what's "personal information" on you, and I see now that wasn't fair. I would have had to find out more about what you meant, and I couldn't think of a way to do that within the guidelines, being sensitive to the other poster(s) involved, etc. Reasonable people will probably disagree on what's personal anyway, different comfort levels, etc.
Anyway, I just wanted you to know I'm glad you brought that up, I agree with you, and I'm sorry I included that inappropriate word in my PBC.
Hope your block goes quickly and you feel like coming back to Babble some more.
-- 10derHeart, deputy and just plain poster
Posted by 10derHeart on January 24, 2007, at 18:54:17
In reply to Re: what was uncivil » gardenergirl, posted by NikkiT2 on January 24, 2007, at 5:30:09
Hi Nikki,
>>And, when did 10derHeart become a deputy? I don't recall seeing an announcement on that?
There are six now. This happened in November, when ClearSkies, Racer and I were added:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20061018/msgs/702309.html
It took a while, as the process started in April, as you can see if you go through the thread.
Yon can check the list here, too:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#deputies
...but it may have taken Bob a little while after the announcement to get the FAQ updated...I can't remember...
-- 10der
ps - I think I could clear up a bunch of your other "lostness", too, but I gotta run get something for my new grandaughter right now! I 'll try to come back to this post later and answer some more, if no one else has by then.
Posted by Franz on January 24, 2007, at 21:54:10
In reply to Re: THE POLICE » Jeroen, posted by Dr. Bob on January 21, 2007, at 2:45:02
> > DR BOB, HAS FILED A COMPLAINT AT THE POLICE
>
> I did ask that the police be contacted last year, but I don't know what's going on now. I sent you an email with the details...
>
> Bob
A doctor calling the police to contact a board member and not giving any reason or explanation t o the board members when the issue comes out?. This is very scary. Not very mental health oriented I would say. Make me think is is a wrong place to discuss any serious issue.I think Dr. Bob owes us an explanation. This is iatrogenic!.
BTW why do you use Re: if you are note replying?.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 24, 2007, at 23:04:57
In reply to this is scary Re: THE POLICE, posted by Franz on January 24, 2007, at 21:54:10
> > > DR BOB, HAS FILED A COMPLAINT AT THE POLICE
> >
> > I did ask that the police be contacted last year, but I don't know what's going on now. I sent you an email with the details...
> >
> > Bob
>
>
> A doctor calling the police to contact a board member and not giving any reason or explanation t o the board members when the issue comes out?. This is very scary. Not very mental health oriented I would say. Make me think is is a wrong place to discuss any serious issue.
>
> I think Dr. Bob owes us an explanation. This is iatrogenic!.
>
> BTW why do you use Re: if you are note replying?.
>
>I feel scared by it. I was stunned and do not understand what rule was broken. If you are not civil you get blocked on here after a while. I didn't know the cops would be called...I am looking forward to an explaination
Posted by muffled on January 24, 2007, at 23:28:51
In reply to Re: this is scary Re: THE POLICE » Franz, posted by Fallen4MyT on January 24, 2007, at 23:04:57
I don't think you need to be afraid. I think Bobs policy is that of any professional. If he thinks you are truly at risk of hurting yourself or others, or if there is minor at risk or perhaps himself at risk, then of course he would call cops. I would too, and I HATE cops mostly. Some are OK I guess though. Ratting someone out is real bad in my world, but I would do it for above reasons.
As to whatever happened w/this guy above, I don't really want to know.
I scared of Bob sometimes, but i NOT scared he will call cops on me.
Muffled
Posted by Dr. Bob on January 25, 2007, at 0:14:23
In reply to Re: what was uncivil » gardenergirl, posted by NikkiT2 on January 24, 2007, at 5:30:09
> I thought we were going to vote on new deputy's? Was that decision changed?
It's something I've been interested in trying, but we're not there yet. Maybe next time?
Bob
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 25, 2007, at 0:29:08
In reply to Nahh, posted by muffled on January 24, 2007, at 23:28:51
Yo Muff...I am not afraid Dr Bob would call the cops for harm to ones self or others but this poster said they JUST called someone a name and I am looking to see this clarified.
> I don't think you need to be afraid. I think Bobs policy is that of any professional. If he thinks you are truly at risk of hurting yourself or others, or if there is minor at risk or perhaps himself at risk, then of course he would call cops. I would too, and I HATE cops mostly. Some are OK I guess though. Ratting someone out is real bad in my world, but I would do it for above reasons.
> As to whatever happened w/this guy above, I don't really want to know.
> I scared of Bob sometimes, but i NOT scared he will call cops on me.
> Muffled
Posted by Franz on January 25, 2007, at 7:35:45
In reply to Nahh, posted by muffled on January 24, 2007, at 23:28:51
> I don't think you need to be afraid. I think Bobs policy is that of any professional.
ANY mental healthprofessional wold clarify any problem and would not let anxieties or phantasies arise.
I hope he explains, I am sure he has reasons, but as long as he does not give any he is not acting like a mental health professional.
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