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Posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 21:25:25
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » Deneb, posted by LegWarmers on February 22, 2006, at 20:38:26
> Either he hasnt had time or he wants to deal with it on the boards, or maybe he knows that is what you are looking for, a reply. and if he replied? what next... would you be more likely to send more threatening emails?
I don't know. It might be a possibility.
> If he answers you on this board.. then I would take that as a sign he wants to deal with your admin related issues, on this board. he acknowledges you here, that says something.
I'm not sure I get it. What does that say?
> well, I dont know, I also dont know the content of the emails and I also suspect, he may have stopped reading them?? If I were recieving emails like that I would block that email address pretty quickly, I dont have the time to sort through and read selectively and choose whats a threat and what isnt.
I hope Dr. Bob didn't receive any of my e-mails. It was very bad to send them. I hope he didn't read any of them, but gg told me that if the e-mails were not bouncing back it means that he didn't block me. I regret sending them. I hope he didn't read them.
> you know what I mean? and Im sure Dr Bob is busier then me... that is why I figure he wont call the police.
To hold myself accountable I sent Dr. Bob my real name and address and everything, so he could call the police to arrest me for cyber harassment if he wants to. I did that in an effort to stop harassing him.
> so here is my question... why do you want to bother Dr Bob?
I don't know. Sometimes I think that I'm not bothering him. Sometimes I think he is my friend or something. Then other times I get scared and think he is going to have me arrested for cyber harassment.
>Is it his job to deal with your harrassment? Do you think it might be crossing a boundry to email Dr bob suicidal/threatening things? I do.
Yeah, I do too.
>He can't take you on as a patient... and that is the role you assign when you send emails about your safety?
No, that's not the role I assign him. I don't know what role I assign him.
>If you had my email address, would you send me emails with the content you send bob? OR would you direct it at any other person?
Sometimes I send people the e-mails that I was going to send to Dr. Bob. This is in an effort to stop sending the e-mails to Dr. Bob. I don't direct my threats to that person though.
> Back to your pdoc... it is her responsibilty to deal with this issue, not Dr Bob's. There are legal issues involved if he were to start replying to your threats.
What kind of legal issues? Like he can't charge me with harassment if he answers me?
> redirect this energy into something else deneb. Pretend he is not real or something.
Pretending he is not real is going to be difficult to do. I'm not sure I want to pretend that he's not real. He makes me feel better even though he doesn't really interact with me. It's all in my mind. (Aren't I crazy or what?)
Now that I'm not blocked anymore I will be much less obsessed. I don't usually e-mail him when I'm not blocked.
Deneb
Posted by LegWarmers on February 22, 2006, at 21:43:04
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » LegWarmers, posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 21:25:25
> > If he answers you on this board.. then I would take that as a sign he wants to deal with your admin related issues, on this board. he acknowledges you here, that says something.
>
> I'm not sure I get it. What does that say?that he is making a clear statement that he wants to keep his contact with you on the boards and not off, at least thats what I see
> I hope Dr. Bob didn't receive any of my e-mails. It was very bad to send them. I hope he didn't read any of them, but gg told me that if the e-mails were not bouncing back it means that he didn't block me. I regret sending them. I hope he didn't read them.
when I block someone from my email... it still comes through, just not to my inbox, it goes to delete automaticly. But maybe it bounces back too. I dont know.
>
> To hold myself accountable I sent Dr. Bob my real name and address and everything, so he could call the police to arrest me for cyber harassment if he wants to. I did that in an effort to stop harassing him.I sense that in some way you really want him to call the police?
>
> I don't know. Sometimes I think that I'm not bothering him. Sometimes I think he is my friend or something. Then other times I get scared and think he is going to have me arrested for cyber harassment.If he hasnt done it yet, I think its unlikely.
> >Is it his job to deal with your harrassment? Do you think it might be crossing a boundry to email Dr bob suicidal/threatening things? I do.
>
> Yeah, I do too.Im glad to hear that!
> >He can't take you on as a patient... and that is the role you assign when you send emails about your safety?
>
> No, that's not the role I assign him. I don't know what role I assign him.When you tell someone that you are unsafe, you are putting them in a cargiver or some form of authority role! It is a big responsibilty, that pdocs and Ts are meant to deal with, not outsiders.
> I don't direct my threats to that person though.thats what I meant. I dont know what else to say about this... other than listen and talk to your pdoc
>
> What kind of legal issues? Like he can't charge me with harassment if he answers me?no. more like if you do something... you are obsessing too much on the charges.
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> Pretending he is not real is going to be difficult to do. I'm not sure I want to pretend that he's not real. He makes me feel better even though he doesn't really interact with me. It's all in my mind. (Aren't I crazy or what?)
>
> Now that I'm not blocked anymore I will be much less obsessed. I don't usually e-mail him when I'm not blocked.Good to hear! Again, I hope you tell your pdoc all about this, and maybe you could print the emails you sent if you still have them
Posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 22:30:36
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » Deneb, posted by LegWarmers on February 22, 2006, at 21:43:04
> > I'm not sure I get it. What does that say?
>
> that he is making a clear statement that he wants to keep his contact with you on the boards and not off, at least thats what I see:-( So he won't communicate with me off boards at all? I don't really expect him to answer. I don't know why I keep sending him stuff. Right now I'm attempting to blog most of the stuff I send.
> when I block someone from my email... it still comes through, just not to my inbox, it goes to delete automaticly. But maybe it bounces back too. I dont know.
Does anyone know?
> I sense that in some way you really want him to call the police?
Yeah, maybe I want to go to prison to escape life.
> If he hasnt done it yet, I think its unlikely.
GG told me she doesn't think Dr. Bob will have me arrested for harassment.
> > No, that's not the role I assign him. I don't know what role I assign him.
>
> When you tell someone that you are unsafe, you are putting them in a cargiver or some form of authority role! It is a big responsibilty, that pdocs and Ts are meant to deal with, not outsiders.OK, I won't make threats here anymore. Sorry I kept making threats.
> > What kind of legal issues? Like he can't charge me with harassment if he answers me?
>
> no. more like if you do something... you are obsessing too much on the charges.You mean like if act on my threats and there was an investigation, he could get into trouble? I don't want Dr. Bob to get into trouble.
> Good to hear! Again, I hope you tell your pdoc all about this, and maybe you could print the emails you sent if you still have them
Yeah, I still have them.
Thanks for responding to this thread LegWarmers.
(eek, when I wrote the above sentence, I wrote "threat" instead of "thread". Ya think that means something?)Deneb
Posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 22:53:19
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » LegWarmers, posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 22:30:36
> > I sense that in some way you really want him to call the police?
>
> Yeah, maybe I want to go to prison to escape life.I just realized that the above sentence may sound sarcastic to some people. Just to let you know, I wasn't being sarcastic on purpose.
Posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 23:18:42
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » Deneb, posted by LegWarmers on February 22, 2006, at 21:43:04
> > What kind of legal issues? Like he can't charge me with harassment if he answers me?
>
> no. more like if you do something...Hmmm...on second thought, Dr. Bob will *not* get in trouble if I act on my threats because he is in no way responsible for my actions. No one but myself is responsible for my actions. Like my pdoc said, it's my decision whether or not to act on my threats. Now that I think about it, I think that 95% of the time when I make threats, I don't want to die at all.
I'm sorry about putting everyone through my threats. It was a horrible thing to do. I really have to learn better ways to deal.
I think that a no suicidal threats rule is a very good idea. PsychCentral has that rule and so far I haven't gotten into trouble there like I do here.
Sometimes I wonder if this place is good for me. It seems to make me worse a lot of the time.
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 23:35:09
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email?, posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 23:18:42
OMG...I just realized something...
I think if anything were to happen to me and Dr. Bob had my address and stuff then he might get into trouble.
OMG. Dr. Bob, you have to delete that e-mail, if you haven't already done so. I really don't want you to get into trouble in the very unlikely event that I do act on my threats.
Deneb
Posted by Sobriquet Style on February 23, 2006, at 7:45:24
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email?, posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 23:18:42
>Sometimes I wonder if this place is good for me. It seems to make me worse a lot of the time.
What part of your participation here makes you feel better?
If *alot* of the time you feel worse, perhaps thats an indicator that spending less time here, could in fact make you feel a whole lot better..
I'm not suggesting do not visit here at all, sometimes, less is more.
~
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 23, 2006, at 8:17:11
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » LegWarmers, posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 20:15:32
> I must admit the main purpose of the admin questions were to try to get him to reply to me.
Thanks for being open about that. I wonder if you're the only one here who's wanted a reply from me. Anybody else?
Bob
Posted by Dinah on February 23, 2006, at 9:41:58
In reply to Re: reply to me, posted by Dr. Bob on February 23, 2006, at 8:17:11
Of course, Dr. Bob. :)
I just have my own ways of going about it.
You don't mind, do you?
Posted by Dinah on February 23, 2006, at 9:46:01
In reply to Re: reply to me » Dr. Bob, posted by Dinah on February 23, 2006, at 9:41:58
Less so since I met you, I must confess. I'm sure there's a psychological reason for that. It of course wasn't that you aren't as smart and funny and fascinating in person. :)
Maybe it's that you talk in complete sentences in person.
Posted by LegWarmers on February 23, 2006, at 14:47:55
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » LegWarmers, posted by Deneb on February 22, 2006, at 22:30:36
> :-( So he won't communicate with me off boards at all? I don't really expect him to answer. I don't know why I keep sending him stuff. Right now I'm attempting to blog most of the stuff I send.I honestly dont knwo anything for sure, but that would be my guess, and Ive been known to wrong before ; )
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> > when I block someone from my email... it still comes through, just not to my inbox, it goes to delete automaticly. But maybe it bounces back too. I dont know.
>
> Does anyone know?
>i was curious and I checked this with my account, it does not bounce back, it goes directly to trach so only if I were to go through my trach would I see it, and I got nothing sent to my other account to indicate that the email had been blocked, unfortunaly in doing this LOL i accidently blocked a friedn of mines email *sigh* now I need to figure out how to reverse it, its not as straight forward as blocking... so if anyone knows.....
> Yeah, maybe I want to go to prison to escape life.
and I dont think you mean prson life, but you mean escape what you have to do, thats not uncommon.
>
> > If he hasnt done it yet, I think its unlikely.
>
> GG told me she doesn't think Dr. Bob will have me arrested for harassment.I think gg is probly right
>
> OK, I won't make threats here anymore. Sorry I kept making threats.I thinkk you need to try and put yourself on the recieving end, say I were to send you emails telling you horrible things? How would you feel, or react? For the people hearing it, it is not easy to take, they can't do anything for you... you know? try to imagine what it would be like to hear some of the things you have emailed or posted from someone else. And Deneb this is not a critism, I am trying to help you understand how other might see you. And then you usually add, that you were not serious. That makes it even harder to folllow.
>
> You mean like if act on my threats and there was an investigation, he could get into trouble? I don't want Dr. Bob to get into trouble.Its more complicated, maybe you could look up threats and responsibility of others in certain professions and liabilty
>
> Yeah, I still have them.
>I hope you show your pdoc, she is the best person to help you with understnding and trying to stop this.
> Thanks for responding to this thread LegWarmers.
> (eek, when I wrote the above sentence, I wrote "threat" instead of "thread". Ya think that means something?); ) you have threats on your brain... gotta direct your energy into other things....astrology? school? anything
and no worries, I am hoping you talk to your pdoc about this.
take care
Posted by LegWarmers on February 23, 2006, at 14:49:34
In reply to Re: reply to me, posted by Dr. Bob on February 23, 2006, at 8:17:11
> > I must admit the main purpose of the admin questions were to try to get him to reply to me.
>
> Thanks for being open about that. I wonder if you're the only one here who's wanted a reply from me. Anybody else?
>
> BobI suppose it would be nice if you replied to that email I sent you, some time ago now.
Although, now Ive forgotten what it was about...
Posted by Deneb on February 23, 2006, at 19:06:17
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » Deneb, posted by LegWarmers on February 23, 2006, at 14:47:55
>
> > :-( So he won't communicate with me off boards at all? I don't really expect him to answer. I don't know why I keep sending him stuff. Right now I'm attempting to blog most of the stuff I send.
>
> I honestly dont knwo anything for sure, but that would be my guess, and Ive been known to wrong before ; )Well then, that means I have to never ever get blocked again if I want to communicate with Dr. Bob. I'm never going to be uncivil again. I don't like being blocked.
> > OK, I won't make threats here anymore. Sorry I kept making threats.
>
> I thinkk you need to try and put yourself on the recieving end, say I were to send you emails telling you horrible things? How would you feel, or react?I'm not 100% sure, but I think I would be scared for you. I think I would feel helpless and worry about you. This is because I know you and you're my friend. I wouldn't want anything bad to happen to you.
If it were a stranger however, I think I wouldn't be as affected emotionally. I've been to bad newsgroups where that sort of thing happens daily. It feels different when people make threats here on Babble though, I care more.
Maybe I think that sending threats to Dr. Bob is OK because they do not affect him in any way, except by being an annoyance. I can't upset, anger or scare him with my threats so maybe that's why I send them to him. I think I like Dr. Bob because nothing fazes him.
> > You mean like if act on my threats and there was an investigation, he could get into trouble? I don't want Dr. Bob to get into trouble.
>
> Its more complicated, maybe you could look up threats and responsibility of others in certain professions and liabiltyYou mean there could be liability issues because Dr. Bob is an administrator and/or a pdoc?? I somehow don't think there are any liability issues if someone on a forum carries out her/his threats. Why should there be? People are not obliged to help others right?
Hmmm...I just realized this contradicts my previous posts about telling Dr. Bob to delete my address...now that I think about it, there is no need to delete anything because no one can get in trouble if I were to act on my threats...as long as someone didn't encourage me of course.
> I hope you show your pdoc, she is the best person to help you with understnding and trying to stop this.
She already knows that I make threats via e-mail to Dr. Bob. I don't think that showing her the e-mails will tell her something she didn't know.
Deneb
Posted by Deneb on February 23, 2006, at 19:43:59
In reply to Re: Haven't heard back from my email? » LegWarmers, posted by Deneb on February 23, 2006, at 19:06:17
I hope you don't mind my platonic love for you. Sorry about the craziness.
Don't worry, I would never hug you in person (unless you also give everyone else a hug :-) )
Good golly I'm insane...LOL.
(((((Dr. Bob)))))
All is well with the world again.
Is it OK that I love Dr. Bob? Do you think he minds? Do you think it's weird? Do you think it's like loving a brick wall? LOL
Deneb
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 24, 2006, at 4:10:08
In reply to (((((((((((Dr. Bob)))))))))), posted by Deneb on February 23, 2006, at 19:43:59
> > I wonder if you're the only one here who's wanted a reply from me. Anybody else?
>
> Of course, Dr. Bob. :)
>
> I just have my own ways of going about it.
>
> You don't mind, do you?
>
> Dinah> I suppose it would be nice if you replied to that email I sent you, some time ago now.
> Although, now Ive forgotten what it was about...
>
> LegWarmersI don't mind, and sorry, could you send it to me again?
Also, could you (or anybody else who wants to join in) say more about what that experience (wanting a reply from me) was like?
> Is it OK that I love Dr. Bob? Do you think he minds? Do you think it's weird? Do you think it's like loving a brick wall? LOL
>
> DenebAnd, to continue, whether warm feelings or outright love for me were involved?
Deneb, it's great that you're being so open about how you feel, but right now could you give others a chance to respond before you tell us more?
Bob
Posted by Dinah on February 24, 2006, at 9:29:39
In reply to Re: reply to me, posted by Dr. Bob on February 24, 2006, at 4:10:08
> Also, could you (or anybody else who wants to join in) say more about what that experience (wanting a reply from me) was like?
Me or Legwarmers? I wasn't sure whether you meant both of us, or just her, since you put our responses together.
And somehow right now I don't want to reply if you don't want me to.
(And yes, that was a reproval.)
Posted by LegWarmers on February 24, 2006, at 10:53:32
In reply to Re: reply to me, posted by Dr. Bob on February 24, 2006, at 4:10:08
> > > I wonder if you're the only one here who's wanted a reply from me. Anybody else?
> >
> > Of course, Dr. Bob. :)
> >
> > I just have my own ways of going about it.
> >
> > You don't mind, do you?
> >
> > Dinah
>
> > I suppose it would be nice if you replied to that email I sent you, some time ago now.
> > Although, now Ive forgotten what it was about...
> >
> > LegWarmers
>
> I don't mind, and sorry, could you send it to me again?
>Ill see if I can find it but I had forgotten about it until you asked.
> Also, could you (or anybody else who wants to join in) say more about what that experience (wanting a reply from me) was like?
probably similar to you waiting for a response from someone??
>
> > Is it OK that I love Dr. Bob? Do you think he minds? Do you think it's weird? Do you think it's like loving a brick wall? LOL
> >
> > Deneb
>
> And, to continue, whether warm feelings or outright love for me were involved?LOL Im sorry, but are you being serious?
Posted by Dinah on February 24, 2006, at 10:57:30
In reply to Re: reply to me » Dr. Bob, posted by LegWarmers on February 24, 2006, at 10:53:32
I see a forthcoming research paper. :)
Dr. Bob can be singlemindedly analytical.
Posted by Deneb on February 24, 2006, at 11:03:01
In reply to Re: reply to me, posted by Dr. Bob on February 24, 2006, at 4:10:08
> Deneb, it's great that you're being so open about how you feel, but right now could you give others a chance to respond before you tell us more?
>
> BobSure! No problem Dr. Bob. :-)
I want to hear about what other people have to say about this too.
Deneb
Posted by LegWarmers on February 24, 2006, at 11:03:11
In reply to Re: reply to me » LegWarmers, posted by Dinah on February 24, 2006, at 10:57:30
> I see a forthcoming research paper. :)
>
> Dr. Bob can be singlemindedly analytical.ahh, well that was very strange! I had to double check he had written the post!
keep me out of the researchDr. Bob, please : ) and thank you
Posted by muffled on February 24, 2006, at 13:17:47
In reply to Re: reply to me, posted by Dr. Bob on February 24, 2006, at 4:10:08
> > > I wonder if you're the only one here who's wanted a reply from me. Anybody else?
> >
> > Of course, Dr. Bob. :)
> >
> > I just have my own ways of going about it.
> >
> > You don't mind, do you?
> >
> > Dinah
>
> > I suppose it would be nice if you replied to that email I sent you, some time ago now.
> > Although, now Ive forgotten what it was about...
> >
> > LegWarmers
>
> I don't mind, and sorry, could you send it to me again?
>
> Also, could you (or anybody else who wants to join in) say more about what that experience (wanting a reply from me) was like?
>
> > Is it OK that I love Dr. Bob? Do you think he minds? Do you think it's weird? Do you think it's like loving a brick wall? LOL
> >
> > Deneb
>
> And, to continue, whether warm feelings or outright love for me were involved?
>
> Deneb, it's great that you're being so open about how you feel, but right now could you give others a chance to respond before you tell us more?
>
> BobNo offense intended. Just its how I feel bout things is all.
Posted by muffled on February 24, 2006, at 13:20:58
In reply to Hmmmmmmmm.Lab rats., posted by muffled on February 24, 2006, at 13:17:47
NOW I see. Hope I'm wrong.
Don't think I am.....
Posted by 10derHeart on February 24, 2006, at 15:22:30
In reply to Wondered why Dr.Bob was being so nice?Ahhh., posted by muffled on February 24, 2006, at 13:20:58
Well, muffy, I certainly see where you're coming from. This thread has turned slightly creepy for me, actually :-(
(And no, in case anyone wants to suggest it....I'm NOT going to say any more about that)
But...I believe Dr. Bob is also generally nice just for the sake of being nice, too :-)
Posted by 10derHeart on February 24, 2006, at 15:29:47
In reply to Re: reply to me » Dr. Bob, posted by Deneb on February 24, 2006, at 11:03:01
Huh.
I think that request might have made me feel at least a bit shut down, and therefore a bit put down. Your response was most understanding and graceful.
I'm sure I'm projecting, and maybe more than a little. I don't suppose I ever react well to being asked to hold my thoughts, hold my tongue, don't share more, wait to tell me the rest....even temporarily.
Interesting and triggering.
{shrug} Well, Deneb, you know you can post away and as much about these questions/feelings over on Social anyway, right? You know, just in case you do have more to say but aren't sure how long you're supposed to wait for others who may or may not add anything here :-)
Or at least, I'm assuming that would be okay.
Posted by Deneb on February 24, 2006, at 16:38:33
In reply to Re: reply to me » Deneb, posted by 10derHeart on February 24, 2006, at 15:29:47
> Huh.
>
> I think that request might have made me feel at least a bit shut down, and therefore a bit put down. Your response was most understanding and graceful.Hmmm...I didn't feel put down by the request, should I feel put down? I just thought that Dr. Bob didn't want my responses to influence what other people write. I'm happy that Dr. Bob isn't freaked out about my loving him.
I'm not creeped out about his questions. He's just curious.
I really like how he finds it interesting that I love him.
Deneb
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