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Posted by Angel Girl on January 26, 2005, at 21:04:04
In reply to I am not the Antichrist » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 20:35:15
> >let me please remind you that it was you that started this debate to begin with by comparing Nazis to the word that I find repulsive.
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> > AG
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> Please stop treating me as one.
> nikkit2 bought Nazi's in to it, not I.
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050116/msgs/447239.html
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>Kenny
I'm sorry if that is what you thought I was doing because I was not, far from it. I would not even converse with that person.
I was referring to:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050116/msgs/447301.html
I am feeling hurt, put down and offended.
AG
Posted by Angel Girl on January 26, 2005, at 21:09:43
In reply to Re: please be supportive » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 20:42:31
> > Are you saying that you could only be supportive towards me on the Medication board and not here? Please clarify for me.
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> > AG
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> Yes, let's go to the med board & talk about your medications. Let the talk about Jesus & the Antichrist be in the Faith board & leave this board for admin discussions.
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KennyWith all due respect, I was only asking a question about Jesus & that other person because of a previous comment that you had made on the Admin board.
Why do you want to talk about my medications? Could you please clarify that for me. Also, what exactly is it that you think that I'm being unsupportive about? I don't understand. If you feel that I have been unsupportive towards you then I appologize but I need to know what I said that leads you to feel that way.
AG
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 21:40:50
In reply to Re: I am not the Antichrist » Kenny Koala, posted by Angel Girl on January 26, 2005, at 21:04:04
> I was referring to:
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050116/msgs/447301.html
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> I am feeling hurt, put down and offended.
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> AGI was replying to nikkit2 in that message, not you. The subject of the message is clearly labeled to nikkit2, so as to avoid confusion. She was trying to compare Nazi's to the Antichrist, clearly they are incomparable. Nazi's are real flesh & blood and they are pure evil like Saddam Hussein. The Antichrist is an abstract concept & imaginary much like Iraq's WMD.
Posted by Angel Girl on January 26, 2005, at 22:42:11
In reply to Re: I am not the Antichrist » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 21:40:50
> > I was referring to:
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> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20050116/msgs/447301.html
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> > I am feeling hurt, put down and offended.
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> > AG
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> I was replying to nikkit2 in that message, not you. The subject of the message is clearly labeled to nikkit2, so as to avoid confusion. She was trying to compare Nazi's to the Antichrist, clearly they are incomparable. Nazi's are real flesh & blood and they are pure evil like Saddam Hussein. The Antichrist is an abstract concept & imaginary much like Iraq's WMD.
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>Kenny
With all due respect, you have said this already and you have received replies as to why it is appropriate that I can intervene in this discussion.
However; I have decided that at this point it would be better if you no longer post to me and I will extend you the same courtesy. I ask you to please abide by my wishes. I am sorry if you feel offended by this but I don't see that there is anything to gain by either of us talking with each other. I realize that you did not ask me to join this discussion in the first place but you also had not asked me not to post to you but I am now requesting that of you, not only in this discussion but ever.
Thank you!
AG
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 23:22:26
In reply to Re: We've already been through this » Kenny Koala, posted by Angel Girl on January 26, 2005, at 22:42:11
> Kenny
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> With all due respect, you have said this already and you have received replies as to why it is appropriate that I can intervene in this discussion.
>Yes I know we have been through this already, perhaps we should build a bridge & get over it?
> However; I have decided that at this point it would be better if you no longer post to me and I will extend you the same courtesy. I ask you to please abide by my wishes. I am sorry if you feel offended by this but I don't see that there is anything to gain by either of us talking with each other. I realize that you did not ask me to join this discussion in the first place but you also had not asked me not to post to you but I am now requesting that of you, not only in this discussion but ever.
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> Thank you!
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> AGYou keep saying 'With all due respect', but you don't mean it, you harass me to clarify something that I didn't even say to you & finally you tell me that you don't want to talk to me any more, just because you say so. Not talking to me anymore is probably the nicest thing you will ever do for me. Thanks!
Posted by gardenergirl on January 26, 2005, at 23:42:44
In reply to Disingenuous. » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 23:22:26
Posted by verne on January 26, 2005, at 23:48:18
In reply to Disingenuous. » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 23:22:26
Kenny,
It was clear to me that all you did was include the previous post in your post. You were merely quoting another post to better respond to it. Somehow the comments in the post you quoted were attributed to you.
I've seen this kind of confusion happen before when including the previous post so I don't do it. I get into enough trouble on my own.
verne
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 0:35:40
In reply to Quoting A Previous Post » Kenny Koala, posted by verne on January 26, 2005, at 23:48:18
Thanks Verne! :)
I was starting to very lonely.
Posted by AuntieMel on January 27, 2005, at 9:33:00
In reply to Disingenuous. » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 23:22:26
Not acting as a deputy, but as a member of the board:
<<<<<<<<<<<<<You keep saying 'With all due respect', but you don't mean it, you harass me to clarify something that I didn't even say to you & finally you tell me that you don't want to talk to me any more, just because you say so. Not talking to me anymore is probably the nicest thing you will ever do for me. Thanks!
Please don't say things that mnay make others feel put down or accused.
Also, if someone has requested that you do not post to them, please honor that request.
Posted by AuntieMel on January 27, 2005, at 9:36:07
In reply to Re: I am not the Antichrist » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 21:40:50
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<clearly they are incomparable. Nazi's are real flesh & blood and they are pure evil like Saddam Hussein. The Antichrist is an abstract concept & imaginary much like Iraq's WMD.
It has been explained that to some the antichrist is as real as you or me. Please respect their viewpoint.
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:07:33
In reply to Re: please be civil » Kenny Koala, posted by AuntieMel on January 27, 2005, at 9:33:00
> Not acting as a deputy, but as a member of the board:
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> <<<<<<<<<<<<<You keep saying 'With all due respect', but you don't mean it, you harass me to clarify something that I didn't even say to you & finally you tell me that you don't want to talk to me any more, just because you say so. Not talking to me anymore is probably the nicest thing you will ever do for me. Thanks!
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> Please don't say things that mnay make others feel put down or accused.
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> Also, if someone has requested that you do not post to them, please honor that request.
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>What about my feelings & beliefs? They attacked me first & showed no regard for my feelings. My wishes are that banter about faith & religion be kept in the faith board, but Angel Girl doesn't respect my wishes, so why should I respect hers? She also harased me to get me to clarify a post I made about my view of the antichrist so she pretty much asked for it.
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:25:44
In reply to please respect others' views » Kenny Koala, posted by AuntieMel on January 27, 2005, at 9:36:07
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<clearly they are incomparable. Nazi's are real flesh & blood and they are pure evil like Saddam Hussein. The Antichrist is an abstract concept & imaginary much like Iraq's WMD.
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> It has been explained that to some the antichrist is as real as you or me. Please respect their viewpoint.
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>It's a TWO way street. You respect my views and I will respect yours.
Do you think that it's fair for you & your friends to be forcing your views & opinions down my neck & when it's my turn you all cry foul!?
You can believe that the Antichrist is real like you & me & I can believe that the Antichrist is imaginary like the Easter Bunny, and we both respect each others views, OK?
Posted by AuntieMel on January 27, 2005, at 13:29:33
In reply to You respect my views and I will respect yours. » AuntieMel, posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:25:44
I am not one that believes in the antichrist. I, too, think of it as fiction.
But I do respect other's rights to believe otherwise.
Posted by Gabbix2 on January 27, 2005, at 14:42:00
In reply to You respect my views and I will respect yours. » AuntieMel, posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:25:44
> > <<<<<<<<<<<<<<clearly they are incomparable. Nazi's are real flesh & blood and they are pure evil like Saddam Hussein. The Antichrist is an abstract concept & imaginary much like Iraq's WMD.
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> > It has been explained that to some the antichrist is as real as you or me. Please respect their viewpoint.
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> It's a TWO way street. You respect my views and I will respect yours.
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> Do you think that it's fair for you & your friends to be forcing your views & opinions down my neck & when it's my turn you all cry foul!?
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Ironically Kenny no one is forcing their beliefs down your throat, neither Nikki nor Auntie Mel
or I believe the Anti-Christ is real, that does not mean that Angel Girls pain is not real, and that's the point here. Many problems are the caused by the fact that people minimize the pain of others who don't share their beliefs. I repeat, it's not religious belief that is the issue here, it is that someone was hurt by something that was said, and it's not up to you to decide whether or not her feelings are worthy.
Posted by Fallen4MyT on January 27, 2005, at 18:25:11
In reply to Re: You respect my views and I will respect yours. » Kenny Koala, posted by Gabbix2 on January 27, 2005, at 14:42:00
OK I am one who believes in the Anti-Christ ...MILLIONS do.,...I also believe that there were/are Nazi's and that there were death camps....but in case some of you who do NOT believe in the A/C ...didn't know a couple of years ago....(and it is still a big belief.and sadly growing)...some say there NEVER were Nazis *or death camps*...and wanted to suppress all the as they said *Propaganda on it*....Moral of story....believe what you believe in and allow others the same respect. On PB these issues cannot be debated without a PBC that is why one must say..I respect your view and move on. ...In real life the huge groups that said these things on the Nazis...GOT A GOOD CHEWING OUT ...
A blind man who has no hands believes in a smile..does it not exist???....I am not going to say more on this topic....but I hope you all move on....
Posted by pegasus on January 27, 2005, at 18:25:36
In reply to Disingenuous. » Angel Girl, posted by Kenny Koala on January 26, 2005, at 23:22:26
Kenny,
Just so you know, Dr. Bob will eventually block you if you post to a babbler who has asked you not to post to him/her. It's one of the rules of the forum. Of course, you can also ask anyone not to post to you, and Dr. Bob will enforce that as well (as soon as he notices it).
Another rule is that being provoked is not considered by Dr. Bob to be an excuse for being non-civil. Dr. Bob will eventually block you for that as well. What he'd prefer is if we don't respond in kind when we are provoked. It's sometimes really hard, but that's the way we're supposed to do it.
pegasus
Posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 1:22:29
In reply to This is totally unfair! » AuntieMel, posted by Kenny Koala on January 27, 2005, at 10:07:33
Kenny,
You've been attacked for no reason. I can't say any more.
You've been attacked for no reason. Let me say more -
Your accuser attributed quotes to you that weren't your's.
Your accuser suggested you were "afraid" or "nervous" if you didn't respond to her queries. You did, but that didn't stop her.
Add to that a gang tackle and pile on by the friends.
You didn't take the bait and I applaud you.
verne
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 1:35:30
In reply to Sorry You were Ambushed » Kenny Koala, posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 1:22:29
> Kenny,
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> You've been attacked for no reason. I can't say any more.
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> You've been attacked for no reason. Let me say more -
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> Your accuser attributed quotes to you that weren't your's.
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> Your accuser suggested you were "afraid" or "nervous" if you didn't respond to her queries. You did, but that didn't stop her.
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> Add to that a gang tackle and pile on by the friends.
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> You didn't take the bait and I applaud you.
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> verne
>
Many thanks for the lifeline verne! :)
I am feeling pretty lonely at the moment. :(
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 1:45:02
In reply to Babble rules » Kenny Koala, posted by pegasus on January 27, 2005, at 18:25:36
> Kenny,
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> Just so you know, Dr. Bob will eventually block you if you post to a babbler who has asked you not to post to him/her. It's one of the rules of the forum. Of course, you can also ask anyone not to post to you, and Dr. Bob will enforce that as well (as soon as he notices it).
>
> Another rule is that being provoked is not considered by Dr. Bob to be an excuse for being non-civil. Dr. Bob will eventually block you for that as well. What he'd prefer is if we don't respond in kind when we are provoked. It's sometimes really hard, but that's the way we're supposed to do it.
>
> pegasus
Thank you pegasus, I did not know that rule. She begged me to talk to her, then when I did, she told me to stop posting to her! I was fairly puzzled by it at the time, but it makes sense now that I know her motives. :(
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:05:30
In reply to Re: Correcting an assumption » Kenny Koala, posted by AuntieMel on January 27, 2005, at 13:29:33
> I am not one that believes in the antichrist. I, too, think of it as fiction.
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> But I do respect other's rights to believe otherwise.
I am Sorry I posted that to you, It was wrong of me to do that.
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:21:43
In reply to Re: You respect my views and I will respect yours. » Kenny Koala, posted by Gabbix2 on January 27, 2005, at 14:42:00
> it's not up to you to decide whether or not her feelings are worthy.
That's not the issue here. The issue is if Antichrist is or isn't a bad word, is it not?
Posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 2:26:05
In reply to Beliefs...., posted by Fallen4MyT on January 27, 2005, at 18:25:11
Posted by nikkit2 on January 28, 2005, at 3:09:20
In reply to Gang Tackled is a good description. » verne, posted by Kenny Koala on January 28, 2005, at 1:35:30
I think, what got everyones backs up here, was your post telling Angel Girl that she had no right to post to you, because you had replied to me. I know I found that quite rude, and I doubt that I would have replied with hostility if you hadn't said that to her.
Nikki
Posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 3:37:35
In reply to Re: Gang Tackled is a good description. » Kenny Koala, posted by nikkit2 on January 28, 2005, at 3:09:20
If you look back, you will see that Kenny's only mistake was including the previous quote in his answer. Yet the response to his post has bordered on the Hunt for Frankenstein or the Salem Witch Trials.
The old guard rallies around their bubby without even reading the posts. Fiction becomes fact and the hysteria increases.
These "passive agressive" mob "pile ons" sicken me. This site seems to encourage this in spite of the civility guidelines.
good luck and all that.
verne
Posted by verne on January 28, 2005, at 3:45:33
In reply to Re: Gang Tackled is a good description. » Kenny Koala, posted by nikkit2 on January 28, 2005, at 3:09:20
Nikki,
Please examine Kenny's first response to Angel Girl's query. It wasn't rude at all. How is telling her he was responding to you, "rude"? He was trying to communicate.
verne
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