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Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 14:34:51
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » SLS, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 14:25:29
> >My failure to respond to generic lamotrigine would be an example of this. Mylan was the worst.
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> Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product?Please, Ed.
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:34:05
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 14:34:51
>>Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product?
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> Please, Ed.I guess that only happens to the rest of us.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:34:36
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by Phillipa on November 19, 2011, at 9:53:45
> Xanax the same with Greenstone being superior.
Evidence, please?
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:36:46
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 14:34:51
I am starting to remember why I stopped posting here.
Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 15:44:31
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » SLS, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:34:05
> >>Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product?
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> > Please, Ed.
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> I guess that only happens to the rest of us.
I'm sure you meant to speak only for yourself.
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:46:46
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 15:44:31
> > >>Hmm, but how do you know you weren't spontaneously worse when taking the Mylan product?
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> > > Please, Ed.
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> > I guess that only happens to the rest of us.
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> I'm sure you meant to speak only for yourself.
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> - ScottNo, not a all. Virtually everyone with mental health problems gets better and worse and then better and worse.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:51:52
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:46:46
>Virtually everyone with mental health problems gets better and worse and then better and worse.
...and funnily enough, not everything is due to what brand of meds you are on.
Posted by Jeroen on November 19, 2011, at 15:59:32
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:51:52
Ed, did i tell you lucky the cat is no longer? :(
Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:15:50
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 15:51:52
> >Virtually everyone with mental health problems gets better and worse and then better and worse.
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> ...and funnily enough, not everything is due to what brand of meds you are on.
I see nothing funny about any of this.I think most of us would like generic drugs to be equally functional as the original products.
I can't be bothered to explain why I was able to take 500 mg of Mylan lamotrigine without receiving benefit or experiencing side effects. Excipients perhaps? If I took 500 mg of GSK Lamictal, I wouldn't be able to remember my own name. Teva was better, but inadequate at 200 mg. Upon my return to Lamictal 200 mg, I was able to recapture its antidepressant effect within 48 hours. My doctor is not the only one to see defects in generic lamotrigine.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18695164
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:20:46
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:15:50
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18695164
That is not a very impressive study, but thanks for posting, it sure makes it feel very scientific.
Posted by Jeroen on November 19, 2011, at 16:21:06
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:15:50
ti took GSK 25 mg lamictal and got psychotic within the hour of taking it, no jokes, psychosis onset due lamictal, still have it.... so f*cked up
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:22:17
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:15:50
> Upon my return to Lamictal 200 mg, I was able to recapture its antidepressant effect within 48 hours.
And what is that? You do not seem to experience much benefit from anything you take.
Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:24:15
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:22:17
> > Upon my return to Lamictal 200 mg, I was able to recapture its antidepressant effect within 48 hours.
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> And what is that? You do not seem to experience much benefit from anything you take.
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Nice, Ed.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:25:22
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:20:46
> >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=18695164
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> That is not a very impressive study,
What did you find so obviously wrong with it?
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:27:08
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:25:22
> What did you find so obviously wrong with it?
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> - ScottThat it's not really a study. A small sample on a large variety of different products.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:28:32
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:24:15
> > > Upon my return to Lamictal 200 mg, I was able to recapture its antidepressant effect within 48 hours.
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> > And what is that? You do not seem to experience much benefit from anything you take.
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> Nice, Ed.
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> - ScottI don't feel nice, just realistic.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:30:53
In reply to Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by Zyprexa on November 19, 2011, at 6:34:29
> So I took the first 10mg teva olanzapine. And feeling very positive about it.
Well good luck, because the people on this board will notice a difference on your behalf even if you don't.
Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:32:02
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:27:08
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> > What did you find so obviously wrong with it?
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> That it's not really a study. A small sample on a large variety of different products.
What might you offer to prove your point?Oh. I forgot to ask you what your point was.
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:35:31
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:32:02
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> > > What did you find so obviously wrong with it?
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> > That it's not really a study. A small sample on a large variety of different products.
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> What might you offer to prove your point?
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> Oh. I forgot to ask you what your point was.
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> - Scott
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>My point was that the pubmed link didn't prove anything. I guess your body just wasn't absorbing any lamotrigine whatsoever from the Mylan product. Only mere mortals can feel worse due to reasons other than medication changes.
Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:36:08
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:28:32
> > > > Upon my return to Lamictal 200 mg, I was able to recapture its antidepressant effect within 48 hours.
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> > > And what is that? You do not seem to experience much benefit from anything you take.
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> > Nice, Ed.
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> > - Scott
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> I don't feel nice, just realistic.
No, you are definitely not being nice.Realistic? I guess that depends on who you talk to.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:38:03
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:35:31
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> > > That it's not really a study. A small sample on a large variety of different products.
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> > What might you offer to prove your point?
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> > Oh. I forgot to ask you what your point was.
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> My point was that the pubmed link didn't prove anything. I guess your body just wasn't absorbing any lamotrigine whatsoever from the Mylan product. Only mere mortals can feel worse due to reasons other than medication changes.
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No, Ed. What is your point overall? You seem to be passionate about this. What is it that you are trying to defend?
- Scott
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:40:58
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:36:08
>No, you are definitely not being nice.
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> Realistic? I guess that depends on who you talk to.
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> - ScottIt is completely pointless trying to say anything here.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:42:05
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:38:03
> What is it that you are trying to defend?
I am not trying to defend anything, I am trying to be realistic.
Posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:43:17
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one » ed_uk2010, posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:36:08
> >No, you are definitely not being nice.
I suppose being nice just consists of agreeing with everything you believe.
Posted by SLS on November 19, 2011, at 16:46:32
In reply to Re: Generic Zyprexa. Day one, posted by ed_uk2010 on November 19, 2011, at 16:42:05
> > What is it that you are trying to defend?
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> I am not trying to defend anything, I am trying to be realistic.You are trying to defend something. You have always had a leaning towards the concept that generics are equivalent to original product. Am I wrong in having this impression?
- Scott
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